Just let it spread ..

[Smallereveryday]

Can someone please explain how this idea is even a thing ?

Majority of 'shielders' live with others who aren't at risk.

I want my 18 yr old and 24 yr old to have as normal a life as possible but how can that happen with a mother with no spleen and on immunosuppressants ?

All it takes is for one of them to catch it and bring it home - surely ? Or do none of the 'just live your life ' believers NEVER come into contact with someone for whom this could mean long term illness or even death. ?

@MadameBlobby

I think anyone who thinks places would stay open and people would go to them even if they did if people were getting ill and dropping dead all over the place are a bit deluded.

Nobody is going to be "dropping dead all over the place".

I do not know why people are disputing the 1 in 10 die from the virus. If the number of infections is over 400,000 and o ver 40.000 have died from the disease then it is simple maths. Just deduct a zero. You move the decimal point along.

1 in 10. End of.

@PollyPelargonium52

I do not know why people are disputing the 1 in 10 die from the virus. If the number of infections is over 400,000 and o ver 40.000 have died from the disease then it is simple maths. Just deduct a zero. You move the decimal point along.

1 in 10. End of.

Because the number of infections is far, far higher than the official figures suggest. Do you not watch the news? Do you think anyone at all would be calm about it if there was a 10% risk of death?

Last week at the scientific briefing they said if things went unchecked they’d expect 50000 cases a day by mid October and then 200 deaths a day coming from those around a month later. That’s 0.4%.

Fair point @GardenSanctuary but it’s not going to be good PR for venues to be the site of superspreading events and large numbers of possible infections, which could result in some deaths. That’s what places had started closing and events being cancelled even before lockdown

Even Neil Ferguson’s much slagged off model only predicted a 1% death rate

@PollyPelargonium52

I do not know why people are disputing the 1 in 10 die from the virus. If the number of infections is over 400,000 and o ver 40.000 have died from the disease then it is simple maths. Just deduct a zero. You move the decimal point along.

1 in 10. End of.

Do you not realise that not every case is reported? It is estimated that there were over 100,000 cases a day at the peak, with 1000 deaths a day. That’s 1% death rate at the highest.

The point about cancer,diabetes, heart disease etc no these things are not contagious is it kills more people than the virus, but covid can't be the only virus out there that can kill, what is the one the world faces?

Are people going to be spending their whole lives panicking everytime a new virus is found?

Yes I guess I hadn't seen it that way.

The people (usually the ones complaining about other people's lack of critical thinking) who think we should open everything as normal and let the virus take its natural course so that we can "live our lives" seem to not understand what that reality would actually look like. The reality isn't like 2019 with a few people off work sick. The reality is schools closing left, right and centre because the staff are off ill and the schools can't afford to pay anymore supply teachers, classes of 60+ if you're lucky, parents unable to keep their jobs because of school disruption, pubs/clubs/soft play and other social venues constantly closing due to outbreaks and eventually going under because they can't afford to keep opening and closing, hospitals grinding to a halt due to a tsunami of Covid patients...and the list will go on and on. We would be even further from 2019 reality than we are now.

Vulnerable people work in all areas: teachers, nurses and doctors, shop workers, delivery drivers, postal workers, bin collectors, hair dressers...how the hell will society function normally without safety restrictions and all the vulnerable people hidden away? We need to accept that this is what life is now, and learn to live with the virus. This means taking safety precautions to protect ourselves and others. Living with the virus should never mean letting it rip through society and accepting that only the strongest will survive.

@PollyPelargonium52

I do not know why people are disputing the 1 in 10 die from the virus. If the number of infections is over 400,000 and o ver 40.000 have died from the disease then it is simple maths. Just deduct a zero. You move the decimal point along.

1 in 10. End of.

Someone has forgotten that not every case of infection is recorded....remember asymptomatic or very few symptoms so no test taken....

It's not a 1 in 10 death rate

OP I've said this previously elsewhere, but I'm really surprised the number of people who say this, it has been less than a year! I don't know why I've been shocked at the number of people unable to modify their behaviour to protect other members of society for one year. I think part of this is the govts handling which has caused divisiveness particularly at some of the nonsensical rules.