We were doing ok until we opened all the schools....

[Bbq1]

After lockdown was lifted pre September and pubs, restaurants etc were opened we seemed to have a handle on Covid with cases, hospital admissions and deaths all declining fairly steadily. Since we released millions of school aged children and thousands of teachers etc back into the classroom- boom, cases and consequently deaths, are now growing very rapidly again. It didn't take a rocket scientist to work out that this would happen. I work in a school and I have a 15 year old starting his gcse's so I 100% don't want the schools to close but surely there must be a more workable solution? Couldn't schools be one week, one week off for different bubbles or alternate days? Nobody wants schools to shut but surely in the long term if we don't get something safer in place and just continue sending kids and adults in day after day, then eventually they will close again?

I am just frustrated that there is no leeway.
I dont work at the moment. My children and I enjoyed homeschool and were making good progress.
If I take my children out during covid, this decreasing the risk on our vulnerable extended household then I lesson the pressure on the teachers and school but I am fined my children lose their places at their lovely school. Do I want to homeschool the next few years no.

Angelil oops crap I'm one of those people- I didnt mean homeschooling then, I meant the other thing (sorry, head gone!!!)

There should have been a reliable track and trace system in place before the children went back to school

Absolutely - would have saved a lot of this hassle and reassured school staff and parents just that bit more.

No shit Sherlock!

Nope, children need to be in school, regardless! They should never have been taken out!

Nope, children need to be in school, regardless! They should never have been taken out!
Your logic is far too simplistic!

@AldiAisleofCrap

Nope, children need to be in school, regardless! They should never have been taken out! Your logic is far too simplistic!

Agree it's too simplistic, and I feel the refusal to think things through has led to a school reopening done in an unsustainable way. I'm really frustrated. It's all looking shit but we're just ploughing on... regardless.

[quote RepeatSwan]@Bbq1 for the blooming hard work of all in schools[/quote]
Thank you @Repeatswan. That's much appreciated.

1847 schools now affected. That’s just under 1 in every 18 schools.

Cases are nothing to do with schools as they have only been back 2-3 weeks and that is too early to show rise in numbers, let alone deaths.
It is to do with the ridiculous easing of restrictions in August. Did they really expect that the mass numbers taking up the eat out to help out scheme for example were not going to spread the infection? It is that, the holidaymakers and the pubs, clubs etc that have caused this spike, plus the public believing in August that we were back to normal.
It's beyond a joke now and I am fed up with our school children facing the blame and suffering from lack of education and social interaction.
This virus is NEVER going to go away, no vaccine will be successful, save eradicate it and more viruses will come. It's simple really, get on with life in a new normal and aware manner or else lock yourself away for the rest of your life.

There are going to be cases in schools but they will be isolated cases on the whole. University is a bigger problem. 124 cases in Glasgow today which they think is more like 600! This is likely to be widespread in universities with 18 year olds getting pissed together and shagging each other. Inevitable spread.

Just on the Glasgow Uni case- it’s 600 that are self isolating and 124 cases. So not 600 cases! Although they do say it’s likely to be more than 124.

I was reading today about new anti-virals. So it may be that like HIV, it’s the treatment rather than a vaccine that knocks it on the head

@2X4B523P

1847 schools now affected. That’s just under 1 in every 18 schools.

Except if you live in Manchester.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/fifth-greater-manchester-schools-been-18983464
A fifth of Greater Manchester schools have been hit by Covid cases - 250 schools and thousands of pupils isolating

@RedToothBrush
Thats really bad and awful for all those families. I’m in the south east and cases are much lower at the moment but are starting to rise. It won’t be long before schools up and down the country will be in a same position with perhaps just remote areas being largely unaffected.

A friend whose son was sent home yesterday said we dont need the government to start a national lockdown. The schools will create one anyway.

That was happening quite a bit in March, with so many staff off sick and schools unable to keep open.

Your correct. Masses of positive results in schools. Just tip of iceberg...There's a threshold for 111 to advise testing. My sons been off school due to icantbelieveitsnotcovid virus...raised temp but not hitting threshold. His year bubble not advised...so how many asymptomatic pupils or those with some symptoms are not being counted.... But hey everyone is to blame except the government.

They’ve only been back 2 weeks! This is down to the actions of those who thought it wouldn’t affect the mans went about life as normal. I’ve met a number who have been ok holiday and brought it back, then there’s the large groups meeting. Those who went to the beach as well as protesters. One or two of those go home and pass it on not knowing they had it. Then those people pass it on and so on and so forth. The government haven’t helped with their ‘advice’ but that said there seems to be a large number of Brits who think they are above it. I met a lass who decided to go camping despite having the symptoms and passed it on to her 5 friends she went with. None of them thought they would be ill because they are ‘young’, my friend ended up in hospital.

@eeyore228 I think you will find it’s 3 weeks.

Schools will close by default. PHE advice to local schools means already schools with no kitchen staff, (kids on packed lunch only) no admin staff ( impacts on safeguarding, first aid,reporting systems, finance, H&S etc etc), teachers and TA's in isolation, not enough cover for staggered lunches or playtime. HT's, teachers and TA's doing the jobs of all isolating staff. Staff clear of COVID are working so hard, but I doubt this is sustainable.

Schools won't be safe ( indirect links to COVID but not closed because of COVID) for pupils attend.

[quote Shell4429]@eeyore228 I think you will find it’s 3 weeks.[/quote]
@eeyore228 We’ve been back from 1st Sept, pupils from 2nd. Into our 4th week.

Ive got to be honest that 3 weeks in every time my phone buzzes at the moment im bracing to read that DS needs picking up from school or that one of the other years at his school has been sent home.

Of the 6 close families in our circle of friends, 4 have children still at school (the other 2 are just going to uni). So far 2 families have had kids sent home.

Its not funny anymore.

@PicsInRed

The mad pub benders and mass summer UK travel and hols around Europe probably did some damage too. 🤔

This.

Not mention people racing back from said holidays to ' beat quarantine '.
Yep, the virus works to a deadline Obs.

Schools doesnt just mean kids mingling, its the teachers, parents, even deliveries they take. It all adds up. In our school its the staff spreading it, young assistants i believe who are out partying then bring it into school and spread it amongst the staff and inevitably the kids.

You are right to blame the schools.