My teens are saying they will ignore any new restrictions

[WearyandBleary]

Big argument this evening. My teens are saying they will ignore any new restrictions because they are mixing at school/college anyway, so what’s the point of not mixing outside of school?

They are really furious. I am quite shocked at how angry they are.

Are they being really selfish? I’m so cross with them. How are other people’s teens taking the possibility of more restrictions?

@WearyandBleary

Was anyone fined for staying at their partner’s house?

We're in a totally different ball game now. That's why they're talking about much larger fines. They have to show they mean business. For teenagers, if they can't pay fines they could be looking at fining parents or imposing community service instead.

At that age I'd probably have ignored the rules as well.

@TempsPerdu

Young people are disproportionately affected by restrictions, in their social life, work and education, yet are hardly affected at all by CV. They were also called snowflakes and told to "suck up" Brexit by the older generation..... so hardly surprising so many just say FU to a society that has turned its back on them in so many ways.

@kitnkaboodle Basically this. As a group they are being asked to make the biggest long-term sacrifices in economic, mental health and general future quality of life terms, and their reward is to be scapegoated for spreading the virus (despite the fact that many of them work in people-facing hospitality jobs) and dismissed as pathetic snowflakes who just need to suck it up and show some ‘resilience’. And none of this is happening in a vacuum - young people are being asked to make these sacrifices in the wake of being royally shat on via their elders’ selfish decisions on Brexit and climate change.

Not at all surprised if some of them are deciding they owe the older generations nothing.

Totally agree.

What have the generation largely affected by Covid ever done for them? And yet teens and young people are now the selfish ones all of a sudden. Nah.

If we keep telling our young people they are responsible for people’s deaths they will grow up with MH issues. We are causing unimaginable damage.

I'm afraid what they want and what they think is fair has absolutely nothing to do with the way in which viruses behave.

Yes, they should be angry. We should ALL be angry at the way the pandemic has been woefully managed by the government BUT the people that will suffer for their anger won't be the government, it will be either their own or other people's family members.

Witty made it very clear today, we don't get to decide how we manage our own risk. When we take a risk we are not just risking ourselves but our families and everyone they know.

It's so sad that some people's anger and pigheadedness is going to literally kill others.

but they are coming home to us, that means we all have it, unless you quarentine your kids, so any restriction is pointless, simple as that. Schools should be closed first..... if its a deadly virus. Thing is all trust is dissapearing fast.

@TempsPerdu

Young people are disproportionately affected by restrictions, in their social life, work and education, yet are hardly affected at all by CV. They were also called snowflakes and told to "suck up" Brexit by the older generation..... so hardly surprising so many just say FU to a society that has turned its back on them in so many ways.

@kitnkaboodle Basically this. As a group they are being asked to make the biggest long-term sacrifices in economic, mental health and general future quality of life terms, and their reward is to be scapegoated for spreading the virus (despite the fact that many of them work in people-facing hospitality jobs) and dismissed as pathetic snowflakes who just need to suck it up and show some ‘resilience’. And none of this is happening in a vacuum - young people are being asked to make these sacrifices in the wake of being royally shat on via their elders’ selfish decisions on Brexit and climate change.

Not at all surprised if some of them are deciding they owe the older generations nothing.

Even before the pandemic there was so much being said about the generational divide and sadly it's only going to increase even further. @TempsPerdu you're so right, this isn't happening in a vacuum. I'd love to think that the government would start to address the generational divide and try to improve things for young people.... but they won't.

I only hope they have long memories. The current generation of GCSE students will be able to vote in the next election...

My teen DDs comply with all the rules, and will continue to do so. Of course they are disappointed (y13, and second year of university) but they will comply, to reduce the risks to others. We are quite a rule abiding family anyway I suppose, but all their friends are strictly complying too. I think I hate lockdown the most out of all of us, and am really suffering. I have a huge amount of respect for how my DDs and their friends are dealing with this disruption to their lives. It’s horrible.

I am bothered if they infect me but if they’re going to catch it it’s a lot more likely they’ll catch it sitting in a classroom with 30 people all day than in the open air with 2 people.

And I have 2 children in different year groups who come home and are in close contact at home. So I’m not under any illusion that bubbles are some kind of magic that keep them, me or their teachers from catching the virus.

i will also say ..... Eton pupils were all tested first day back. One rule for them ..... another for us. How can you trust?

@WearyandBleary

I am really cross with them. I’ve almost come close to saying they should move in with their dad!!!

What a mess.

That would be a dick move.

I agree with your teens

@Kidlacky

but they are coming home to us, that means we all have it, unless you quarentine your kids, so any restriction is pointless, simple as that. Schools should be closed first..... if its a deadly virus. Thing is all trust is dissapearing fast.

Schools should not be closed first. Since when was education an optional extra instead of something as important as healthcare?

I’d love to see the government response to this if the virus largely killed young people. They wouldn’t give a fuck. They certainly wouldn’t be locking down the older generation to protect tnem.

@MadameBlobby spot on with this, thought the same myself:

I’d love to see the government response to this if the virus largely killed young people. They wouldn’t give a fuck. They certainly wouldn’t be locking down the older generation to protect tnem.

@IHaveBrilloHair

I'm with them. I don't necessarily agree, but I can see where they are coming from.

That.

Would they do any different if at dad's, op?

It hasn't happened yet; when and if it does you may find they are more reasonable than they sound right now. They are letting off steam.

However you can't blame them.

I agree with them, they are getting pushed from pillar to post, as are the rest of us but kids nowadays rely on friendships and social events to get them through. I mean who’s not confused and angry they government can’t make up their minds, pretty sure they couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.

I don't think it's right to say that if they see their mates all day at school but not on the weekend it's less time so less risk, because the mates either have coronavirus or they don't. If they do, they'll catch it from sitting in a classroom all day so what difference does it make if they go to the park at the weekend.
The fact is it suits the government for kids to go to school, they know there's a risk there and they are prepared for kids and teachers to take that risk. They could have tried to reduce risk in school more or put learning online but they did not. They want kids to walk into that risk every day and are then telling them they can't do the same thing on the weekend.

Don’t blame them. It’s a ridiculous situation and I can see their point.

I’d love to see the government response to this if the virus largely killed young people. They wouldn’t give a fuck. They certainly wouldn’t be locking down the older generation to protect tnem.

This. With bells on.

And you didn’t even mention who’s picking up the tab.

The government will be bringing in these measures in the hope that 70% adhere to them. Not everyone is going to. I can see why kids would revolt. To be honest in the 80’s their would be riots over these draconian measures

@ktp100

I'm afraid what they want and what they think is fair has absolutely nothing to do with the way in which viruses behave.

Yes, they should be angry. We should ALL be angry at the way the pandemic has been woefully managed by the government BUT the people that will suffer for their anger won't be the government, it will be either their own or other people's family members.

Witty made it very clear today, we don't get to decide how we manage our own risk. When we take a risk we are not just risking ourselves but our families and everyone they know.

It's so sad that some people's anger and pigheadedness is going to literally kill others.

Covid doesn't care about feelings.

You can not eliminate the risk so you reduce the risk .

So by reducing necessary contact during the day say to 50 % then the risk is reduced.

You moan if schools are closed , you moan if schools are opened .

We have to socially distance at work but also restrict seeing family . Because the risk of not socially distancing with family is high .

But how can they account for those that might visit family and be strict about it .,

Just explain it’s not about “shafting “ them . It’s about reducing the ever present risk .

And please write to your mp with a solution that will work .

@halcyondays this! My son is in a small bubble as he as asd, he’s in year 8, my daughter is in year 3, I work closely with one guy whose Oldest daughter Is in yEar 7 same school as my son and his youngest is year 4 same school as my daughter. So if either of us catch it, that’s 4 lots of bubbles instantly affected. This is the same for many families wHo have different aged kids so technically the bubble are doing jack shit 🤦🏼‍♀️

And we are asking them to sacrifice all of this - to lose a year of their lives for something that doesn't affect them badly at all.

Plenty of teenagers will lose a grandparent or even a parent. Many will have parents who lose their jobs. Some may lose their homes due to the impact on incomes. Some may go hungry when their parents can’t afford food. Some may lose their first house deposit from the bank of Mum and Dad because Dad’s pension has been almost wiped out.

Teenagers will be adversely impacted in lots of ways. Unfortunately not seeing their friends for a few months could be the least of their worries but I suspect some of them don’t see that.

@TheKeatingFive

What a stupid inflammatory comment about a worldwide pandemic .

Do you say the spanish . The French . The Indian government are all the same ?

It’s so easy to criticise rather than come up with a solution isn’t it .

Lazy politics