Will grandparents not be able to see kids?

[Lockdowner13]

If grandparents provide childcare for grandchildren (obviously keeping within the rule of 6) will that be stopped? Should people book other care/sell an organ to get the cash to pay for said childcare?

They are gonna say no mixing houses aren’t they? And the above would be an example of mixing two houses.

This is an interesting one. My parents mind my youngest two days a week, I could put him into nursery but none have spaces... nada, zero. I don't have to work but my job is amazing and flexible, I would never get this elsewhere.

My parents want to keep minding them as they enjoy it... to top it all off we are now in a local lockdown area. They need to make allowances for this if it's going to be blanket rolled out over the UK, it's already causing issues in the local lockdown areas.

We already have those rules here in NE

It would be much easier if we could bubble up with just 1 other household regardless of how many live in each house or if 1 side happens to be a single person/parent.

The rules have been written to minimise COVID transmission.

The fact that following the rules could leave you jobless and homeless doesn't seem to have been considered at all.

I have asked my nursery and they do have places but not til October. And that will cost me over £500 extra a month... I have two in nursery. I won’t actually be working at a profit in that case, the only reason I could afford to go back to work after twins was because my parents help me one day a week, sigh

My parents also look after my sisters child on the same day. And they enjoy it. I’m really worried this won’t continue.

My sister has another issue: she’s a doctor and she can’t exactly stop working. Her nursery do not have space on the extra day. And it seems more dangerous for her to start using two nurseries! Her kid would be mixing with double the people.

I think they've just announced informal childcare for children under 14 will be exempt from restrictions.

Yes just announced, grandparents are exempt if providing Childcare for a child under 14

@SunshineOutdoors

I think they've just announced informal childcare for children under 14 will be exempt from restrictions.

From the Guardian (live feed following the Parliamentary statement):

Hancock announces childcare exemption from local lockdown arrangements

Hancock says an exemption from local lockdown measures is going to be introduced for childcare arrangements. It will cover formal and informal arrangements, for children under 14 and for vulnerable children.

But it will not cover parties, he says.

He says MPs from all parties have been pushing for this.

He says this should give people more certainty.

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Matt Hancock announces that in local lockdown areas (13.5m people) there will be an exemption on the ban on households mixing for childcare for under-14s.

Not playdates or parties, but consistent "formal & informal" childcare so parents can work.

Maybe they will allow grandparents to child mind but then as families you may have to limit other socialising to reduce transmission risk. Or say they can only child mind for one set of children. Obviously very hard to police so reliant on people keeping to rules.

In lockdown areas they have banned this so yes I would guess so.

Even if there are exemptions, may there be a time your parents become concerned about the households mixing?

Ultimately you can use your common sense and act accordingly but older people are at higher risk. Clearly the fewer number of people you meet and interact directly with the less the risk of infection.

Ignore my post then! That's good news

Everyone in the UK will suddenly be using grandparents for childcare!

Obviously he has only said this about areas subject to local lockdowns, and it doesn't necessarily follow that the same exemption will apply if new, stricter, nationwide measures are introduced. But one would hope it is a strong indication of the direction of travel on this issue.

If people abuse the system I assume they will take this exemption away

Hancock has said Grandparents providing informal childcare will be exempt from the local lockdown restrictions

How on Earth is that going to halt the spread and save lives. ? If we are basing the new stricter needs on not passing on the virus to the more vulnerable group ?

Biggest spreaders atm are 20-29 age group and then the 30-39s. (Parents of young children needing Grandparents childcare.)

So the HEALTH minister has decided it a GOOD idea to let the biggest group of spreaders drop their young (often non symptomatic child ) off at Grandmas, whilst they go to work. ?

What to they do when grandma is dead of Covid , or like many many people , still having long term serious health consequences after this brilliant plan.

Honestly ! They are making it up as they go along based on who shouts loudest . It has to be based on the facts.

No mixing households. Least of all with someone in their 50s upwards . It's just bonkers. Literally a recipe for how to endanger your parents health.

It's a practical decision.

There aren't enough childcare places available for people not to use informal provision. For many of us in local lockdown areas, being told that our families can't look after our children in their homes has been a source of great resentment, and has also been widely ignored. This leads to the government losing face, and also delegitimises the rules themselves.

On one hand thank for for that. However, I plan to have a conversation with my parents though, I agree i might need to find the money and not let the kids see my parents at all. Not because the government have made it illegal but because it’s the right thing to do.

That's exactly what I was getting at OP.
I have been to say 'by for now' to my parents today. Not because I don't love them but because I do and need to keep them safe.

I honestly couldn't put my young children with them in the current situation. Just too much risk. .. and if it all went wrong they don't get another chance.
Rather have them alive than a job.. or money .. or a home . Next to kids they are everything.

I flipping love my parents but I cannot simply put them ‘above’ a job, pay & a roof over my head & food on the table. Nor would they let me do so. It’s a very privileged view to say ‘I’ll lose my job, it’s fine’. Many people do not have that luxury. You’d put yourself on the streets? Cos not everyone has parents who have the space to put them up in their house. I suspect that statement comes from someone who can afford to pay for more childcare. I can’t. It’s a catch 22.