Does anyone know what time Whitty and Valance are on?

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Does anyone know what time? Interested to hear what they're going to say.

I’m at the bar. This reminds me of every judgement I’ve ever heard. You can see where this is going !

seriously for me it was m/is good to have clear visuals and scientists rather than political layering (although not doubting there may be some of that)
Hmmm

@Seriouslymole They're telling you exactly what will happen based on data without intervention. Sorry if you're struggling to get it. Try listening with a bit less bias

Very clear that this is much worse than seasonal flu.

Vallance explains better than Whitty.

[quote ksohh0]@Seriouslymole They're telling you exactly what will happen based on data without intervention. Sorry if you're struggling to get it. Try listening with a bit less bias[/quote]
They've said about three times "this is not a prediction" it is what MIGHT happen. No-one knows.

Only about 8% of the population have antibodies, probably higher in places like London which could be as high as 17% but average is 8%. This has been shown by tests from a number of organisations

Data being presented and statistical modelling if we let it go out of control.
Now reminders of effects of it being allowed to go out of control. Effect on nhs being stressed.

This is clear and concise-so much better than having Boris waffle on.

"That is the path we are on if we don't change course" is very clear I think. The "ifs" depend on what we do. (Or don't do)

No evidence the virus is weaker

@Seriouslymole They're saying might because they're indicating that they're not going to let it run run without intervention, so this won't happen and is therefore not a 'predicyion'! They're being very clear here!

Well that was a total waste of 20 minutes.

For anyone who didn't watch: "It's really serious. Things might get worse".

I'd like to see exponential curves explained on every news programme and This Morning and Loose Women etc
Yes yes yes
And maybe tell the likes of Denise Welch to stop underplaying it, her tweets need to come with a public health warning.

Four things we can do
Reduce our own risks
Isolate the virus - by isolating on behalf of society
Break unnecessary links between households (whether at work ! And social environments) to do in least damaging way.
Science investment

I respectfully disagree with Whitty's point of putting responsibility on the general public for NHS being unable to treat non-Covid cases in the case of a spike/second wave. NHS has been under pressured way before Covid.

Ifs, buts and maybes don’t mean lack of clarity in communication.

Alicia.

Cases are going up, it isn’t just testing. Number of new cases a day is doubling roughly every 7 days which will lead to 50,000 new cases a day by mid Oct. As cases rise, so will hospitalisations and deaths. We need to slow that down.

4 ways in which we do that.
1 - reduce individual risk - hands face space.
2 - isolate the virus. - isolation if symptomatic, test & trace. If you have symptoms stay at home.
3 - break unnecessary risk between households. Have to try and do in least damaging way. But there are downsides. If don’t do enough virus will take off.
4 - drugs, vaccines, diagnostics

Clear summary of where we are & where we are heading by October with epidemic doubling every 7 days. Sobering, nothing new but good to keep people Up to date.
V surprised they didn’t address aerosol transmission like the CDC as it’s clear gap in U.K. policy

Well that was a total waste of 20 minutes

Why?

That was the most factual information I've heard since this all started without political soundbites and bluster

Well that was the warm up act. When does Boris slap the restrictions on?

@SockYarn maybe some people need to be told that

The doubling time could speed up to doubling every three days as it did in March.

Or a recombinant virus could emerge.

People could comply with the new rules.

Or not.

There are a lot of variables.

But that is clearly where we are headed if we don't change course.

Exponential curves are highly predictable once you're on one. And we are.

Then update on lèvres if science

Now finished.

I thought that was really useful. Really clear, much better than I expected.

All the data is there, cases are rising again so I think they're hoping we'll all 'behave'

I reckon Boris will announce a two week lockdown on Wednesday. However god knows what/how that will affect schools and the economy. Weird times!