Is this new spike down to holiday makers?

[Fredocorleone]

Do you think that opening up international travel Across the whole of Europe will be the thing that everyone regrets when it comes to looking back at this in 10-20 years time when we have the benefit of hindsight?

I was reading this earlier about how Bolton’s spike has been traced to a twat who went on a pub crawl when he should have been isolating - <a class="break-all" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-54205353?intlink_from_url=www.bbc.co.uk/news/coronavirus&link_location=live-reporting-story" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-54205353?intlink_from_url=www.bbc.co.uk/news/coronavirus&link_location=live-reporting-story

I’m sure I also read on here the other day that Iceland saw an increase traced to two French holiday makers Who should have been isolating and wasn’t that also the case for the resurgence in New Zealand as well? I just wonder whether we’ll really regret encouraging people to travel whilst paying lip service to quarantining upon return.

I completely understand that some people needed to see loved ones and/or needed a holiday and many people booked pre-Covid. I just wonder whether travel was allowed far too soon across the whole of Europe? Clearly there are some issues because countries like NZ and Iceland who are so reliant on tourism can’t stay closed forever so I genuinely don’t know what the answer is.

And driving in a private car to stay in an isolated self-catering cottage will be considerably safer than sharing toilet and washing facilities on a campsite, or dining in a hotel every night - unless, of course, you go for pub crawls of an evening, or have large parties every night.

Yes foreign holidays and mass transportation on ferries and planes etc. The Cardiff/Bristol-Zante flights are a prime example that planes are not Covid-safe.
Plus unfortunately indoor pubs/bars/restaurants are high impact areas, according to an epidemiologist on the news this morning and responsible for much of the transmission also.

@SoManyActivities

No, this second rise in cases was inevitable unless we stayed locked down until a vaccine.

I mean yes, people like the bloke who went on a pub crawl whilst he was supposed to be quarantining and then developed symptoms 2 days later are certainly going to have helped things along, but ultimately this is unavoidable really isn't it?

You would need near 100% compliance for any measures to work. The original lockdown affected everybody so no one was going on pub crawls.

This man broke the rules to hang out with his buds, and it has singlehandedly caused Bolton to be the highest area in UK.

So it only takes a few people not abiding by the rules, and it won't work.