Would you not see your friends and family?

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BJ seems to be floating the idea of a 2 week national restriction on socialising in October. Essential work would stay open, but people will be told not to socialise with any other household. Sky news reported

"Proposals being worked up for such a "circuit break" could see essential travel to schools and workplaces continuing, but restaurants and bars would shut - or perhaps run on restricted hours - and different households would be asked not to mix."

Where I live, there are about 10 cases a week, and we havent had a death since august 23rd. I know that's not the case around the whole country, so I am asking would you comply with the government bringing in restrictions that mean you go to work, but you cannot see another household? They are proposing this would last for 2 weeks minimum.

Do you think it will help as we head into winter, or is it just another finger plaster over a gaping wound?

lughnasadh - perfectly happy to infect your family, then. I hope they have the sense to refuse to see you inside.

If people in Bolton stop being stupid maybe their rates will finally drop - if they go on being selfish they trash the economy even further.

It depends. If my uncle needed me I would go.

Depending on what idiotic rules they come up with this time, I won't be only going out once a day or only for essential shopping.

I am in a local lockdown area and the majority of people are going about their business as normal, in and out of houses meeting in packed pubs.

The feeling on social media seems to be of suspicion and distrust. Lots of covid deniers calling those who do comply sheeple.
It will take a huge effort for the government to regain the trust of the people.

There is also the opinion that if the government feel it is safe for them to work in busy factories and offices and for children, including the children of the extremely clinically vulnerable to mix in bubbles of 100s, then they will not be told not to mix with family and friends.

I’m single and was Shielding and my parents are in their 70s and one of them was Shielding. I moved in to help them.

Apart from that we’ve not really seen anyone so yes we will comply.

@alreadytaken you're welcome to try!

Between work, school, childcare, parks, neighbours, cinemas, shops, church, transport, I'd say we've all been as exposed as we ever will be.

Either we've avoided it so far, or we've had no symptoms.

None of us are particularly vulnerable , cases are low, deaths even more so.

A sense of proportion is more useful than panic.

This is my reality in the North East. But I really do think we need another lockdown while we get testing sorted.

Haven't seen mine or husbands family since last Christmas so no issue for us. We live 300 miles away and not risking traveling as we are in a very low case area.

If sensible rules (not rule of 6) are put in place, then it's selfish not to follow guidance and rules. Keeping schools open is an absolute priority as children have missed out on so much already.

@Anna713

This what is already happening in Bolton but it is not stopping the rates of infection from rising dramatically

Lots of people in Bolton aren't following even the basic lockdown, never mind their extra measures, this is probably why it isn't working.

Yes, I would. Have so far too.

Family not a problem. Will miss friends a lot.

People are complaining that they can have contact with others anywhere there’s a till, but not in their own homes. It’s illogical and that’s why people aren’t complying. If it was across the board, no contact with anyone, pubs etc closed, I think people would be more likely to comply.

I’m another that’s due in October, I’m also in a lockdown area where things are basically normal you just can’t visit friends/family.

I don’t want to go shopping or out for a meal I just need some help managing with a toddler when I’m 9 months pregnant.

We will have to break it as such as my son will need to be cared for while I’m in labour (which I know is ok) but seems bizarre to then say to family - thanks for looking after our toddler in your home overnight but now you can’t see the newborn.

I struggled a lot when my son was born and was really grateful of the support I received so I’m not sure how this is going to go down.
Of course my husband can go down the pub with his mates to wet the babies head ...

Yes I’ll comply. I’d rather give up on My social life for a while than for schools to close and my kids educations to suffer anymore than they already have. I’d also hate to feel partly responsible for transmitting the virus to vulnerable people.

It’s really irritating all the Dominic Cummings childish whataboutery people are using to excuse breaking the rules, he’s was absolutely wrong, it doesn’t mean everyone else should be.

Yep I'm in Bolton and can confirm some people just refuse to follow the restrictions I'm so pissed off with this ,but a minority appear to be too thick to equate rising rates with rising hospital admission,s my son managed just one week in year nine before positive cases, were confirmed,he went off on Tuesday supposedly untill the 24th of this month ,he now has to stay off until the 29th 😭

@NewStart2020MyArse

I, and thousands may be millions of others, cannot mentally cope with a lockdown like the one that happened in March. I will not comply for my families sake. Call me selfish if you like. I don't care. Its survival of the fittest now. Sorry....

"Survival of the fittest".

Nice. Screw the vulnerable then.

I thought this would be a good idea back in march. I know it would be very hard for the two weeks, but if absolutely everyone stayed at home for two weeks (baring emergency) then we would pretty much wipe out the virus. Much better to make it really strict for two weeks than have all these longer term rules.
You would have to follow this with strict quarantine rules for people arriving in the country or it would start up again.

I can only speak about my own experience but from what I see, most people in Bolton are following the rules. Certainly my friends, family and neighbours are. We are not all stupid in Bolton you know. There is nowhere to go anyway as all the pubs and restaurants are shut. The town centre, on the rare occasions I've ventured there, is like a ghost town. The vast majority of people are wearing masks and keeping their distance. Of course you are always going to get some people who break the rules, and as I said, I can only speak about what I see for myself. I have absolutely no idea what the answer is but like everybody else I am finding it really difficult. It is especially hard to stick to the rules when it doesn't seem to be helping.

No, because as a teacher my youngish, healthier than me, parents collect my son from school 2 nights a week so I can work. If they don't collect him, I can't work those 2 days so my 28 year 2 children wouldn't have their teacher for 2 days.

Also if I can be exposed to 28 children and multiple staff for 8 hours a day in a tiny classroom which doesn't have room to swing a cat why should I stay away from my parents (they aren't worried about being around me or my son either).

@NotAnotherUserNumber

I thought this would be a good idea back in march. I know it would be very hard for the two weeks, but if absolutely everyone stayed at home for two weeks (baring emergency) then we would pretty much wipe out the virus. Much better to make it really strict for two weeks than have all these longer term rules. You would have to follow this with strict quarantine rules for people arriving in the country or it would start up again.

The issue is you cant have everyone stay at home; supermarket workers, bus drivers, train operators, everyone in the nhs frontline, teachers, care workers, fire brigade, utility workers like gas and electricity engineers, delivery drivers, pharmacy workers.

They will all still be out and about. You cant shut everything down. This is where I hwve an issue with it. Will 2 weeks solve it? I don't think so. So will it help? Probably for a few weeks, maybe 2 months, and then we will be back to this point again when people inevitably start going about their lives again. So do we just keep doing this every few months? 6 weeks of life and 2 weeks of lockdown, until a vaccine comes in, or forever if it isnt the wonder vaccine we hope it is?

I would comply but I would understand why others might choose not to.

But @Anna713 just read the comments section on the Bolton news ,some of them are just not getting it ,and refuse. to believe there's an issue ,where I am in Bolton kids are still congregating on the park behind my house ,I see lots of people walking around Asda ( Manchester road) not wearing masks properly ,I know we are not all stupid in Bolton but some are .

@NotAnotherUserNumber

I thought this would be a good idea back in march. I know it would be very hard for the two weeks, but if absolutely everyone stayed at home for two weeks (baring emergency) then we would pretty much wipe out the virus. Much better to make it really strict for two weeks than have all these longer term rules. You would have to follow this with strict quarantine rules for people arriving in the country or it would start up again.

did not work in NewZealand.....mostly definitely wont work here

• Survival of the fittest".

Nice. Screw the vulnerable then.*

To be honest, it probably will be down to survival of the fittest in the end. This has to stop, it's not sustainable.

It's not a case of "screw the vulnerable" (I am one). It's a case of they and the terminally terrified need to make a decision on what they are prepared to do going forward, stay in or not. The country can't continue being restricted in this way.

I live alone, infecting numbers are minuscule here and I have zero confidence it would be for two weeks.

So it's a no from me.

I wouldnt socialise, I would just see my boyfriend.

If I can still meet them somewhere with a till, I'm afraid I'd be taking no notice of the new regulations.