What are the current mixing rules in other European countries?

[profpoopsnagle]

I can only find information about the rises in other European countries, and was wondering if they have similar rules to Scotland/Wales/England. Does anyone know?

This for France www.gouvernement.fr/en/coronavirus-covid-19

Thank you.

Does anyone know of rules for other countries? I'm just wondering if the rule of 6 is in align with what other countries are doing, especially if they have similar infection rates.

We are pretty relaxed in Iceland - it's no problem to meet friends and family and no limit on how many people you can be in contact with as long as you don't try to gather with over 200 adults in the same place.

www.covid.is/sub-categories/what-is-ban-on-public-events

But the testing programme and the contact tracing / quarantining is really rigorous and effective and the infection rate is low.

Italy, no rules for numbers.
Masks must be worn between 6pm-6am in areas which are crowded (ie nightlife) when SD isn't possible.

@PuffinShop 200 infections a day not that low when you look at population size?

France are allowing large scale events to go ahead. They are "limited" to 1000 people with 1m distancing. Surely this must be a large part of the reason for their huge increase in infection rates?

Italy have just closed nightclubs. We never opened them.

In Belgium the death rates remain low - they never opened nightclubs or allowed large scale events.

I really think large scale events are the worst places for viral transmission. I hope we learn from them and decide to keep large venues closed for now.

I thought Iceland had only about 2,000 cases in total - nowhere near 200 a day?

Belgium have a 'rule of 5'

My friend lives in Spain where cases are rising, much higher than they are here. They're allowed to meet with groups of up to 25 inside it out, which makes no sense to me at all.

Spain rule of 10 tho some places is 5.
Masks must be worn at all times when outdoors. In pubs only allowed to remove for drink or eating
Kids over 6 must wear them all the time in the school.

Talking of large scale events: news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-us-biker-rally-responsible-for-more-than-260-000-cases-of-covid-19-study-suggests-12067717

France just introduced 10 which is quite high considering hospital situation in some areas

Belgium five - but stricter than here, must be same five people

I think it’s 50 in Denmark.

I remember at the start of the pandemic when the PM let Cheltenham Horse Racing go ahead - I was told it contributed hugely to the high rates in the Midlands. These huge meets are super spreading events

I do wonder how some of the large sporting and events venues will stay open.

These huge meets are super spreading events

It’s slightly subtle. In a large football game there may not be that much spreading at the match itself. The real risk is the increased numbers in bars, shops and restaurants before or after.

Im in Germany, but Germany isn't really one country, it's a group of states and each has different rules and laws (for everything, not just covid) in the same way Scotland and northern Ireland have a lot of independent laws etc.

In Bavaria, where I am, incidences have been higher than the national average due to our proximity and close links to Italy. Lots of people have family in northern Italy and go there a lot. Our minister-president is pretty cautious.

There are various rules,but if you're mostly curious about the English "rule of 6" it's 10 people here.

Relatives can meet in their homes without restriction, but that's immediate, close relatives in a "direct line" not second cousins twice removed.

Children from year 5 up wear masks all the time at school atm, due for review on Friday.

You almost never see anyone without a mask in a shop.

We're tested regularly at random at work (healthcare) and there doesn't appear to be any shortage of PPE, which we wear if anyone has a second degree contact with a positive case (quarantine for 1st degree contact, ordinary surgical masks all shift if no known contact).

The rules are changing all the time.

If it is specific countries you are interesting you go to gov.uk and register and view the relevant information. They can also send you travel updates relevant to that country as they occur.

I just realised I don't even know the current rules here in Berlin, had to look them up - which shows that they must be fairly relaxed.

Germany is a federal system so each state determines its own response, but masks in shops and public transport is universal. The limit for events is currently 750 inside and 1000 outside, but anything over 50 for a private party and you have to submit a 'hygiene concept ' which means people have to wear masks when not seated and distanced in small groups, plus recording people's details for tracing purposes. Clubs and gigs won't reopen for at least the rest of the year, which is a big deal here: clubs are a big part of the economy. And it was made clear from the start that restrictions will be reintroduced locally wherever infection rates rise too much.

@KitKatastrophe

France are allowing large scale events to go ahead. They are "limited" to 1000 people with 1m distancing. Surely this must be a large part of the reason for their huge increase in infection rates?

Italy have just closed nightclubs. We never opened them.

In Belgium the death rates remain low - they never opened nightclubs or allowed large scale events.

I really think large scale events are the worst places for viral transmission. I hope we learn from them and decide to keep large venues closed for now.

The Italian nightclub thing is a bit of a red herring, as it means in practice, not that many places have closed. Huge nightlife places have stayed open after the govt decided to reclose 'nightclubs'. All it has really meant is instead of 500 people in a "nightclub" they're dancing in a different place. As long as the dancing and "mingling" is outside, other places with music have no restrictions as such.

Munich has made alcohol sales after a certain time in the evening illegal (quite early, maybe 9:30, bit out of touch as I don't really go out to bars any more and kids are too young to). Which is a big deal as there's normally no universal closing time and people don't even head out for the evening til 9:30pm in normal times.

Oktoberfest and all similar events are cancelled. Indoor and outdoor attractions all have reduced capacity and no ticket sales / paying on the door - tickets have to be bought in advance and usually by the day before.

Gosh Until, there really are huge differences between Bavaria and Berlin. The 50 people who can meet up here without any restrictions can be from any number of household and related or not. Dd2 went to her first house party last weekend since covid kicked off, which I wasn't thrilled about. All perfectly legal.

Mentounasc yep - Germany shouldn't really be referred to as a country given so many things are totally different state to state (such as school starting age and school systems generally for example) but I guess that's the same in the USA and even UK, just with only 4 states ...

Bavaria had the first cases in Germany and has been much worse hit than northern Germany due to the high levels of connectivity with Italy and Croatia - so many people have family in those countries and are usually travelling back and forth very frequently. A colleague's husband works in Italy and they divide their time between homes in Tyrol and Bayern, so they were separated for ages back in spring. It's been handled well here IMO though.

My sister is in Switzerland. Their cases went back up from under 20 during lockdown to 300-500ish.
Everythings back open, masks on public transportation. Some areas enforce masks in public places like grocery stores or malls, but not everywhere.
No events allowed with more than 1000 people. And i think you need a permit for events with more than 300 people.
She says they are back to normal pretty much, apart from the masks.

@fakeofsted

Not just so easy to compare infection rates in countries with very rigorous test and trace programmes to those in countries where people struggle to get a test.

@fakeofsted That is not the case, where did you get that figure? Might have been one of those 'per million' numbers which for Iceland are always a lot higher than the actual number because our population is around 350,000.
Over the last 14 days the domestic infection rate is 11.2 per 100,000 people and 5.5 for the border screenings. The highest number of infections in a single day over the past 2 weeks is 16 domestic or 7 at the border.