Help! Clarification needed!!

[MrsWarleggan]

Have a large house booked for 2nd Oct for 11 people.

9 are from 3 separate houses (support bubble) but are family. 2 are from a separate house.

Under current rules can we go ahead with the booking?

Are we

Oh my Christ! What part of 6 PEOPLE do you guys not understand!!!!

Surely you can’t have a support bubble spread over 3 households anyway can you?

I thought it was only more than 6 if made up of 2 support bubbles not 3? But no that number is not permitted.

Either one bubble of 6 or over 6. Or 6 individuals. I don't think what your planning will be within the law.

Which country are you in? Laws are different.

You can’t have a support bubble spread over 3 houses , it’s SIX people

It's 6!! No!

From gov.uk

"This rule will not apply to individual households or support bubbles of more than 6 who will still be able to gather together"

I might be being thick/dim etc.

We haven't got a problem if it's cancelled.

How can you have a support bubble of 9?

Check the government rules. You cannot have a support bubble of three households.

A support bubble can be made if you have ONE PERSON alone (or a SINGLE PARENT with dependants) who can then bubble with ONE OTHER FAMILY. If you have a family of 6 and the one person extra from the support bubble, you can all be in the same place. However, you can't have more people who aren't in your support bubble on top of that.

What about this is so hard to understand?

The advice on Gov.uk means individuals households with more than 6 (eg Mum, Dad, 5 kids) or a support bubble which comes to more than 6 (eg Mum, Dad, 5 kids plus Granny who lives in her own)

You cant have a support bubble of 3 households. What you've suggested wasn't allowed under old guidance and still isn't allowed under new guidance.

Thankyou.

I said I needed clarification, and I have it.

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@MrsWarleggan

From gov.uk

"This rule will not apply to individual households or support bubbles of more than 6 who will still be able to gather together"

I might be being thick/dim etc.

We haven't got a problem if it's cancelled.

this just means if you live in a household of say 7 or 8 people then one or two of them dont have to move out! You cant have a family of 7, then meet with more people all together. You can only form a support bubble with one single person living alone. So for example, if you were a family of 6, you might have already fromed a support bubble with granny who lives alone. That continues to be OK, and the 7 of you can continue to meet. The 7 of you though can not then meet with more people.

@mosscarpet

Thankyou for clearing things up without resulting to insults! Most appreciated. 😊

*resorting!

@p0rridge

Check the government rules. You cannot have a support bubble of three households.

A support bubble can be made if you have ONE PERSON alone (or a SINGLE PARENT with dependants) who can then bubble with ONE OTHER FAMILY. If you have a family of 6 and the one person extra from the support bubble, you can all be in the same place. However, you can't have more people who aren't in your support bubble on top of that.

What about this is so hard to understand?

Were a family of 6, oldest has girlfriend who is dependent of single mum. Can they say we are our their support bubble and girlfriend be person 7 when at ours?

@MrsWarleggan

From gov.uk

"This rule will not apply to individual households or support bubbles of more than 6 who will still be able to gather together"

I might be being thick/dim etc.

We haven't got a problem if it's cancelled.

Technically I believe that say you have a family of four - 3 parents and 2 children - you can they could be in a support bubble counted in essence as one entity with a lone parent and their children. However, as I understand it this is limited to 2 households only. So really, only options are review the support bubble to 2 households so it complies and they go together or cancel, potentially forfeiting the money.

@p0rridge
Were a family of 6, oldest has girlfriend who is dependent of single mum.
Can they say we are our their support bubble and girlfriend be person 7 when at ours?
Only if the gf and her mum are not in another support bubble.
Reality is though, unless we end up with vigilante covid Marshalls in all areas and really sticky beak neighbours syndrome, then who will know....
However, I think that for me, I'd look at the bigger picture... And compliance is for the greater good and unfortunately for your son that may mean forfeiting gf time in your home. Though if he maintains that intimate contsct he's obviously putting all of you at risk anyway.....

@Dadnotamum72 would the girlfriend's mum really want to bubble with you rather than any of her own friends or family? Are you very close? Seems like a big commitment.

Are you able to cancel without penalty?

@ChaChaCha2012

Yes we can, so it's not an issue at all.

How old is the gf? 18 or older then no they can’t be in a support bubble as there are 2 adults in their household.

Younger than 18 - yes but only if the gf’s mum is not bubbled with anyone else and social distances from everyone else. If the mum has a partner or her own parents that she does not social distance from, then it all falls apart.

Gf under 18, only asking for general opinion, not close so guess gf mum has own support bubble but worth asking as if they can meet up to 6 they may not need one.

@Dadnotamum72 Ah I’ve just remembered, there is specific guidance on relationships where the couple live in different households. It applies from Monday. Sorry can’t link but the extract from gov UK (it’s part of FAQ) is below:

2.13 Can I see my partner / boyfriend / girlfriend if I do not live with them? Do we have to socially distance?
Yes. People in an established relationship do not need to socially distance. If in the early stages of a relationship, you should take particular care to follow the guidance on social distancing. If you intend to have close contact with someone, you should discuss how you can help to prevent risks of transmission as a couple, for example, by ensuring you are both avoiding close contact with people you do not live with.