In all honesty. Do you think people will follow Mondays rule.. Honest truth

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Everyone I have spoken to, or seen on SM have said how stupid it is and they will not be following the rule /law.

My dbs manager who owns the workplace. Was due to have a get together at home next sunday for their teens birthday.
They are now doing it at work. ( a garage.)
Has now said by doing it there and ' booking in the relatives cars for a visual inspection /safety check ' whilst waiting they could get together on forecourt spaced out, Because they would be 'customers' and they would be at work. And it's no different to it being random customers just because it's family.
So there would be 2 cars' booked in' one of. Which is a couple., one a family Of 3. Plus their own household of 4 (the teens work there weekends cleaning etc anyway)

Which made me think how silly the rule is. They can't do that in their garden but can on a forecourt (the garage is not on a main road or anything and out the way so unlikely to be seen)

Extended family member has been diagnosed with terminal cancer. With the best will in the world, and as someone who has followed all the rules in lockdown, they will have a last Christmas all together. Sometimes common sense and a bit of humanity needs to be balanced against potential risk. The rule of 6 is incredibly badly thought out despite the good intentions behind it. I’d be happy to never go to a pub but I need my family and they need me. If it means a fine, so be it, but at least the kids get one last Christmas with a loved one.

Yes I will as I want to do the right thing. It doesn't effect me much anyway. Family of four two grandparents. Won't see my brother for a while now but that's fine. We are adults.

Friends very rarely go out in more than 3/4 anyway.

No and I don't know anyone else following it

It’s a ridiculous rule. So much more risky for me to meet 5 people from 5 different households for dinner in a restaurant, rather than my sister & husband coming to my garden for a coffee. I will continue as we have been since restrictions relaxed. I have a bubble of 10 people including children. I will just be seeing them in a safe way.

@whenwillthemadnessend you've hit the nail on the head, it won't affect some households as much as others.

I'm married with 3 kids, i don't consider a family of 5 to be unusual or excessively large. If i charged my parents entry to my living room and paid tax on it i bet the government would deem it safe and legal then. This is nonsense, clutching at straws because they can't afford to subsidise shutting down tourism industry and pubs etc. I could just have my mum round, give her covid for her to go home and give it to my dad anyway. I could leave my eldest at home and go out for a meal with my parents as a group of 6. In a restaurant. With 20 strangers in the same building. Absolute joke.

I think most will but plenty won’t

I already saw a man on the news saying he’d be happy to pay the fine 🤷🏼‍♀️

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

I think those that have been affected by the virus, those vulnerable or family members who are and those that care about the wider society will.

There will be many who won’t though as selfish wants come before the big picture and the laws will get tougher and more restrictions in place.

Oh, give it a rest.

Everyone that I have spoken to (around 6 friends, close family members and several colleagues) is planning to adhere to the new rules.

@247SylviaPlath

Extended family member has been diagnosed with terminal cancer. With the best will in the world, and as someone who has followed all the rules in lockdown, they will have a last Christmas all together. Sometimes common sense and a bit of humanity needs to be balanced against potential risk. The rule of 6 is incredibly badly thought out despite the good intentions behind it. I’d be happy to never go to a pub but I need my family and they need me. If it means a fine, so be it, but at least the kids get one last Christmas with a loved one.

Don't blame you in the slightest.

I’ve only been doing this anyway. I don’t trust the government, and just because they say something is safe doesn’t mean it is. You need to make your own mind up and own judgement.
The new rule won’t affect me, because I’ve been doing it anyway.

While I broadly welcome the rule of 6 as being more easily understandable, we will continue to use our common sense and act accordingly. We distance, only socialise outdoors in small groups, wear masks as required and wash hands frequently. We are in the vulnerable group.
We also cuddle our very small grandchildren because that is something we are not prepared to forgo.
I do not take government advice seriously as they don't have a clue what they are doing and/or are more driven by trying to revive the economy. I listen to the scientists and public health experts, at least the ones that haven't yet been sacked

I use public transport, so share a bus with 13 to 20 random strangers, but I can't have my child, her partner, and her 3 children in our house or garden. Makes sense that!

Although the rules seem unfair they are based on a level of science

In public areas such as shops public transport and workplaces it is "supposed" to be a controlled environment. Masks social distancing etc put in place to protect us.

In homes we forget. We know these people well. We dont distance and we dont wear a Mask. We let our guard down.

The number was chosen based on the average size of a uk family. It's seems unfair and perhaps it is. Personally I'd have kept it at two separate families of any size but that live in the same household can meet up but I'm not in charge.

I do believe we will get a pass for Christmas but if we don't we don't. Other religions have had to give up their traditional days through this. Why is Christmas any different.

I'm finding it very interesting how many MNers say they will not be following the new rule because it's unfair on families of four, when people living alone were in many cases shamed and scorned back in April and May, simply because they hungered for company and human contact.

I don't blame them, I think the new rule is ridiculous too. But how things have changed.

I have to go to work every day with bubbles of around 150...although I move between bubbles.... indoors, small classrooms, corridors.... meeting in my garden any number of people (obs... not 100’s my garden isn’t big enough lol) seems way safer .......

I nipped to tesco today and there was somone trying to sort a stuck trolley so I was stood back waiting. Just started nosing . Steady flow of people walking into the store. Maybe 20+ in total. I saw 2 people santisise.. And not one clean the trolley.
Just shows people are getting complacent.

On Monday SIL has to go for an appointment that absolutely can't be re arranged as she's waited so long for it. (regarding treatment)
She has no one to have the dcs as my brother will be working away. I have said I will have them. Now by the time my teen finishes and they're here there will be 7 of us. 8 when dh arrives home.
To me the risk is tiny. They have been here with us all day today, before my brother has to go work away tomorrow
Their youngest goes to pre school with my middle one. Their oldest is in the same bubble at seniors. So to me I'm prepared to use my common sense and do it.

So in situations like this I'll break the rules happily.

Not a hope in hell anyone will follow anything around here (South Norfolk rural village). Everyone is just pretending Covid doesn’t exist here, only about half are bothering to wear masks and even the children have been told they don’t have to socially distance at school (I shit you not, I’m not happy, I was in the clinically vulnerable shielding group).

(I don’t just mean no social distancing in their class or year bubbles I mean at all).

Yes I've noticed shops can't be arsed too. No more pre sanitation of trolleys and everyone just walks past the gel stations now.

@whenwillthemadnessend, I’ve had to do a risk assessment for work and make the place Covid secure.
It’s a joke. You can do as much or as little as you want. The guidelines are something along the lines of ‘cleaning as often as necessary depending on the number of people’.
I’m not even going into using a office in a shared building.

The issue on a government pov is that you don’t have others around to police what you do (with evil stares or marshals) in a home. Not that it’s not Covid secure.

Yeah actually hadn't thought of that. Shops don't even wipe and pass the trolley now. No queing systems.

Are work meetings of more than 6 people exempt even if out of the office?

I can assure anyone mynhouse is more covid secure than anywhere. As I've said I'm always washing everything.. My sofa covers are done probably weekly. (should never have got a cream sofa with toddlers lol and they just pull throws off.)
I always antibac anyway. Mop hoover and everything all the time.
Windows are open wide majority of the time unless it's chucking down then they're ajar. Even if it's icy out they're open. So we'll ventilated.
I have sanitiser in bathroom hall. Lounge and kitchen. Always have pre covid. Hand-wash at each sink.

@DidSheReallySayThat20

Yeah actually hadn't thought of that. Shops don't even wipe and pass the trolley now. No queing systems.

Our Waitrose sanitise all their trolleys, you pick up a clean one from one area and take back your used one to another where someone is cleaning them. I also spotted there was a small queue yesterday afternoon and the security person waves people in the door

Yes I will. Of course I will. Why not ? (I have rtft just don’t agree with those who argue against restrictions right now given the numbers)