Civil Unrest?

[HannoK]

If freedoms and liberties, and basic services continue to be denied to us, I predict mass unrest starting in the autumn and winter among those whose lives have been trashed for a virus that causes little more than a cough in most cases.

People are not going to put up with this shit for much longer.

I've stuck to the rules 100%, but that was too protect the NHS. But why, my elderly mother desperately needs face to face help with various medical issues and is getting nothing. I'm fucking fuming and reaching the end of my tether.

@TheClaws

OMG, not another one! What is it about 'pandemic' and 'public health measures' you don't understand?

This.

And this

Oh do fuck off, OP.

@AntiHop

I'm glad most people on this thread are disagreeing with you that it's "just a cough". We are in the middle of a global pandemic of a virus that is not yet fully understood.

Personally, I've had face to face appointments when needed. I had a growth on my face. Gp saw me in person, and within 2 weeks I was seen by a dermatologist at my local hospital.

I'm pregnant and I had my booking appointment over the phone, but have since seen a midwife in person. I've been referred to an obstetrician due to my age, and was offered a choice of phone or face to face. My husband is allowed to come to my scan (but won't be allowed for the whole labour with the rules as they are at the moment which is really worrying me).

There's a campaign about this, I believe led by AIMS.

I'm particularly concerned that women are being told they have to have a vaginal exam to confirm they're far enough on to have a partner. This is coercion and completely inappropriate and unnecessary.

Clubs and choirs are not freedoms.

You have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, you have the right to a fair trial, you can still vote, be in a gay relationship, have a termination. These are freedoms.

No after school clubs, no athletics training, no choirs, restrictions on weddings, funerals, not allowed in GP surgery but have to wait outside, no meeting more than 6 people, no hugging, no library, no clubs for the elderly, no right to free movement, no competent education, covid marshalls

Adding no toddler groups (unless expensive pre-booked ones, which luckily I can afford but lots of others can’t). No theatre and live music, with whole tranches of that sector at risk of totally disappearing. Singing and music making with others essentially banned. And, probably the biggest one, residents in care homes effectively becoming wards of the state and being prevented from seeing their loved ones. Some of the measures that have been taken in the name of Covid are not just illogical, they’re inhumane.

Not being able to have a massive knees up for your nan's birthday hardly means we're living in Gilead.

I actually agree with the OP. I’m not sure people will riot, and I agree with a PP in all that will happen is more angry social media posts but the lack of NHS care at the minute for other issues is dire.

Yesterday my brother attended A and E with clear psychotic symptoms. He is a suicide waiting to happen. He isn’t known to mental health services so the crisis team didn’t want to know.

The doctors sent him away as they were “too busy”. They chucked him an AA leaflet assuming he was under the influence. He was not drunk, he was psychotic and in need of urgent in patient treatment. Delusions, voices, paranoia etc!!

The fact he even went alone was a miracle!! The fact they just dismissed him was disgusting. Ironically yesterday was world suicide prevention day. Speak out, reach out for help etc etc. Well good luck with that. If it’s not Covid then do one.

My husband has been made redundant, my children’s school is no longer offering before and after school provision!.... the list is endless.

The SEN college I work at has the atmosphere of a morgue due to the restrictions!... and to top it all off I have a new continuous cough, and a killer of a sore throat. The nearest test centre available to me is 178 miles away. Ironic when I drive past my cities testing centre and it looks empty.

Thoroughly fucked off. I appreciate the public health measures, and have family members who are nurses.... but there’s no balance here.

Dangerous times if you ask me.

Your posts are interesting op......... [Hmm]

As if! Most people are happy for these freedoms to be curtailed in the short term to get the thing under control. There will not be mass civil disobedience.
Break the rules if you want, and feel comfortable. There's not a huge penalty in law. It's mainly you and those you love who will suffer if you slip up.

The virus isn't going away just because you, and others, are now fed up of it. If you can't be sensible enough to comply with rules, all you are doing is helping to prolong the pandemic. Stop being so entitled and naive, and grow up.

@HannoK

No after school clubs, no athletics training, no choirs, restrictions on weddings, funerals, not allowed in GP surgery but have to wait outside, no meeting more than 6 people, no hugging, no library, no clubs for the elderly, no right to free movement, no competent education, covid marshalls, ......I could go on

Marshals. it is marshals.

Also, nearly a million people have died from what you call a virus that causes little more than a cough in most cases

As for civil unrest - nope. The British only do that sort of thing in the summer.

You can still be in a gay relationship

Yes, you have the right to be in a relationship if you’re lucky enough to have one already. But how will new relationships and meaningful social connections be formed when people aren’t allowed to mix freely and with any kind of spontaneity, and everything’s done over Zoom?

My mid-30s single friends essentially see Covid as the death knell for any chance of now finding a partner and having a child.

Ps: take your mum to a&e. Services are working fine. I've had to use them loads lately for a family member and I'm also about to give birth. If you've got a shit GP, push back or change practices. Mine is easier than ever to reach within half a day now.

I certainly won’t be out rioting but SAGE have advised the government that this may well happen so 🤷🏼‍♀️

@TempsPerdu I have many mid 30s friends - some feel the same way as you report, others are getting out there and dating anyway as meeting someone from another household (and having them come back to your house) is totally within the rules. So maybe it's an attitude/perspective thing.
If a relationship is their key goal, there are still ways to meet people.

whats wrong with your mother?

@Shamrocksunshine Just drive in to your local testing centre. We did this yesterday. Got an immediate test and result (negative) this morning. Needed it urgently heavily pregnant. Just turn up.

TempsPerdu if your single friends haven't managed to meet anybody in all the years leading up to covid, or over this summer when they've been able to mix freely, why do they think that the restrictions now are the culprit? They sound a bit dramatic.

If freedoms and liberties, and basic services continue to be denied to us
Oh, give over, talk about over DRAMMMMA tising

whose lives have been trashed for a virus that causes little more than a cough in most cases

The day I see people rioting in the streets because choir practice and stay and play have been temporarily halted will be interesting!!

The day I see people rioting in the streets because choir practice and stay and play have been temporarily halted will be interesting!!

Exactly, the epitome of first world problems!

No after school clubs, no athletics training, no choirs, restrictions on weddings, funerals, not allowed in GP surgery but have to wait outside, no meeting more than 6 people, no hugging, no library, no clubs for the elderly, no right to free movement, no competent education, covid marshalls, ......I could go on

After school clubs are running at my childs school as are brownies, guides, beavers etc. Football, rugby, dance classes round here are still running and i believe can continue to under the new rules, you can still have weddings and funerals even if its not as many as you would like. Libraries are open round here including our mobile library, my childs school has put lots in place to enable my child to have an education. We are allowed in our GP surgery but you must wear a mask and hand sanitise on arrival whilst following social distancing guidlines and may have to wait outside for a few minutes until some one comes out to keep the numbers inside at a level to make social distancing possible.

Im not sure if you are dramatising or whether services in your area are just poor in general and im lucky to live in an area where we have found ways to make life continue safely.

Aside from Covid, would anybody here actually try and protest if people were rounded up into camps, executed etc?

I think people would just go along with anything personally.

Luckily the vast majority of the population are intelligent enough to understand why measures are put in place. They are also unselfish enough to care about others rather than just themselves.

These are the quiet, majority who just get on with things but their views are heard by their actions. Luckily they far outnumber the loud minority who rant and wail and do nothing to help anyone but themselves.

What the fuck is wrong with people? There is a global pandemic, 1000's upon 1000's of people have died a pretty horrible death, there are many more 1000's of people who have long lasting serious after affects like heart, lung, kidney failure, children have lost parents and grandparents, parents have lost children and because people are having to alter their lives a bit and it is just a bit, you can still go out, you can still go to the pub/out for dinner/shopping, you can still see your friends and family just not all at once ALL you are being asked to do is wear a mask, wash your hands, work from home if able to and stay 2m away from people unless your wearing a mask then you can get a whole meter closer

What @smilingthroughgrittedteeth said above, 100%

Funkypolar your posts are a bit pointless but how would you approach this? No restrictions at all, or some?