Operation Moonshot - mass testing plan

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www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/09/boris-johnson-pinning-hopes-on-covid-testing-moonshot-leaked-papers-show?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

£100bn on mass testing. Where’s the money and resources coming from for this? I don’t believe even in Wuhan they were testing 6 million people daily.

It’s certainly appropriately named.

And we have neither the money nor the technology to make it happen....... but apart from those two minor details it's a really good idea Boris

I hope they give us a bit of notice... I'm a test site PPE manager and there's only so many tests we can make in a day.

Thus is what I posted on one of yesterday's threads about this. Think it's relevant here too:

This article from 20 August

www.standard.co.uk/news/health/rapid-coronavirus-tests-available-weeks-a4529956.html

describes the concept. And the way I read it, 'moonshot' was a near synonym to 'pie in the sky'

Typical Magicians' misdirection - they are fucking up Brexit (as expected) and want to draw attention away from that.

@MaidenMotherCrone

I hope they give us a bit of notice... I'm a test site PPE manager and there's only so many tests we can make in a day.

Hope you get a pay rise too with £100bn budget

When the government can’t get the small things right, how can we believe they are going to achieve this?

I will believe it when I see it the technology is even here yet, Boris full of balcony.

@Farahilda

Thus is what I posted on one of yesterday's threads about this. Think it's relevant here too:

This article from 20 August

www.standard.co.uk/news/health/rapid-coronavirus-tests-available-weeks-a4529956.html

describes the concept. And the way I read it, 'moonshot' was a near synonym to 'pie in the sky'

So it’s a testing technology that’s not yet available but somehow everyone will have it and it will work and be accurate in a few months. Right OK then.

It relies on technology that doesn't exist yet....
That said, so did the Manhattan Project and the Space Programme neither of which were delivered in Britain
And obviously cracking the enigma code.

Operation Crapshoot more like

If they could just test those that have symptoms and actually need tests that would be a start. With with a no deal Brexit looming that will bring chaos and food shortages on top of increasing cases we are in for a disaster this winter. Johnson is full bullsh**.

Yeah I’m absolutely sure this will happen 🙄

What has the government achieved that would give us any confidence that they could actually make this a reality?

It's a brilliant idea, what could possibly go wrong?

@NotAKaren

If they could just test those that have symptoms and actually need tests that would be a start. With with a no deal Brexit looming that will bring chaos and food shortages on top of increasing cases we are in for a disaster this winter. Johnson is full bullsh**.

Exactly. They have not got a good track record of delivering testing at the scale needed. Does anyone else think there was a large simultaneous eye roll in the nation yesterday at 4.23?

Billions being given to private contractors like Serco, no questions asked about viability or ability to deliver under emergency legislation. What's happening is criminal.

It relies on people taking the test at home and being sensible enough to isolate if they have Covid. Which won’t happen because people are too selfish. There have already been cases of people who knew they had Covid going on a pub crawl because they felt like it, resulting in several pubs being closed and loads of people being infected.

The economy is already circling the drain. It’s a stupid and stupid expensive idea but not surprising coming from Boris. Did he not say he wanted to replace the Chunnel with a bridge?

I suppose its another way to get vast sums of our money onto the pockets of favoured partners with no benefit to us

Get the current system working properly first.
Kids school - we have been at hone since Saturday. Managed to get a test on Monday. Awaiting results. Someone else was at school on Monday, and got a positive last night. How does that work? Surely we should be higher up the testing list? Or is it last in, first tested, and now we are buried under a pile of tests, stuck at home when I'm pretty sure it's a cold turned into a cough and not covid?

They need to have a test that everyone can take first. Between us we cannot restrain ds (14) to do it and he is going to become very distressed and unsafe being repeatedly kept indoors for 10 or 14 days and if this comes in he will end up being locked out of everything. We are now considering whether he will have a better quality of life in a residential provision with access to a large outside space. It is appalling that it has to come to this.

I think the likelihood of this coming off is in the name. It also sounds a bit too much like a health passport for my liking.

@Ifailed

Typical Magicians' misdirection - they are fucking up Brexit (as expected) and want to draw attention away from that.

I agree.

To be clear I’m skeptical moonshot has any basis in reality but in theory it’s the gold standard way to manage a pandemic.

I’m sure I’ve woken up in a parallel universe... I could (and want to) write so much but I’m too angry and frustrated, and I’d probably be accused of being a conspiracy theorist, which is the latest insult people like to throw at others who want to question what is happening. I’m seriously worried, not about the virus (even though I have a relative suffering with the long-tail version) but the ridiculous and all-consuming reaction to it. Personally, I think nothing make sense right now and there is seemingly no opposition in Parliament questioning what actions are being thrust upon us. I’m puzzled - if thousands of people can die from flu each year (even with a vaccination programme) and there is a test for flu, why hasn’t there been mass testing for it? Why does Covid trump everything? Just to stress, I am completely opposed to mass testing!

One argument I’m sick of hearing is that lockdown and all the ever-changing measures have stopped thousands from dying. Ignoring Ferguson’s crazy guesstimate, how can we possibly know how many people would have died, unless we have developed god-like powers to ultimately predict others’ fates. How can we predict the reaction of 66 million individual immune systems? And that’s ‘following the science’, since scientists believe t-cells come into play etc etc.

I genuinely feel at a loss as to how to make my opinion heard. Democracy seems broken (case in point is the Brexit agreement).

1984...

Why dont they sort out the current testing problems then spend that money on the nhs!

I mean BJ is literally just taking the absolute piss and treating everyone like morons.

What's new?

I was surprised to see this popping up this morning after the public were berated for taking too many tests earlier in the week! A nice companion piece to last week's disgust that we weren't supporting Pret and getting back to offices on packed buses, followed by this week's horror at young people going to too many places and picking up the virus. Go out but stay in, test but don't test.