Family of 5

[cherrybakewellll]

Am I the only one who is now dreading being told as a family of 5 (3 kids in primary) we can no longer meet my parents from Monday?

If we had one less child or one more we would be able to?

Sorry if I'm being really thick! I know we have to wait and see the full list of exemptions later today but based on initial information?

Same situation here, we have 3 children.

At least they have each other xxx
I have mother and mil who are both alone and at height of lockdown was extremely lonely for them

Why not just use your common sense instead? The government's full of it. There isn't the manpower to police their stupid, made up policies, either.

Same problem here - family of 6 so now can't meet up with dm even outside if I've read it right 🙁 she hasn't seen her gc since the start of all this and were meant to be meeting up in a couple of weeks time

That's correct as far as I understand the news this morning, I extra person at a time. I assume one parent plus 3 children meets with one set of grandparents at a time.

Do you and your partner both need to see each others parents at the same time?

As a Mum of 3 yes it's completely bullshit!

This is what fucks me off, these rules that make NO sense. Six people from six different households can meet, but people from two households, if they contain more than six people in total, can't. We are a family of four. We could see my DPs, but we cannot meet up with another family, because that would take us over the limit of six people. I hated this rule the first time around and I'm even more irritated by it now!

It's very frustrating. My in laws do my child care usually. Technically as soon as dh and I are both home from work we will be breaking the law as that will make 7. Usually we would have a cuppa or something together before in laws went home. It's manageable but seems ridiculous considering our two households are mixing anyway.

We are a family of 5 too. I am so upset at these new restrictions, I can't believe that 6 people from 6 different households can meet up but my family can't meet up with my parents as that is 7 people. I can't drive so it would mean us all going to my parent's house in the car and one person sitting outside. Seems illogical to me, the household thing made sense but not this.

It's a stupid, nonsense rule. Just use your best judgement instead. They don't have the manpower to go round policing this, anyhow. It's beyond stupid.

yep, totally non sensicle. My dd at uni can meet up with 5 other friends, they can hang out together inside or out, any 5 friends, different every time. But we are now 7 of us at home (me, dh and 5 dc) so my sister and niece can no longer visit us - the only people I have had social contact with since March. Crazy.

@whojamaflip if you are a household of 6 then you are able to see others because you are one unit. Which is why it makes no sense.

I mean technically only 1 of us has to drop or pick up the kids from parents but it's just madness that my husband in theory can't come in to my parents house but the kids all can go between (and school with 300 other kids) and to their dads house on his weekends.

Honestly I've always been a Bojo fan but this is the final straw.

@mosscarpet but if there's 6 or more people (as in if a couple have 4 or more kids) then you are exempt and can see another household.

[quote cherrybakewellll]@whojamaflip if you are a household of 6 then you are able to see others because you are one unit. Which is why it makes no sense.

I mean technically only 1 of us has to drop or pick up the kids from parents but it's just madness that my husband in theory can't come in to my parents house but the kids all can go between (and school with 300 other kids) and to their dads house on his weekends.

Honestly I've always been a Bojo fan but this is the final straw.

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that first bit isn't correct cherry if you are a family of 6 or more you can (obviously) socialise with each other, but still can't meet anyone else if doing so would take your numbers over 6.

actually, unless you have formed a support bubble, with another person living alone, in which case you can continue with that even if it takes your numbers over 6

I can see why you think it’s illogical. From a covid point of view, two households carries less risk. But from a public messaging point of view, it’s a lot simpler (so many people throwing their hands up in despair and saying ‘we don’t get the rules’ when it was a mix of two households indoors / six people outdoors). And then from a policing point of view, it’s also easier to break up large gatherings when you have a clear limit on numbers.

That doesn’t make your individual situation any easier though.

[quote cherrybakewellll]@mosscarpet but if there's 6 or more people (as in if a couple have 4 or more kids) then you are exempt and can see another household. [/quote]
not true sadly.

@whojamaflip oh really? See I like to think I'm fairly clued up but if I'm mistaken on this then i can fully see why people are confused! I stand corrected.

So basically if you're married/partnered and have more than 2 kids then you are buggered unless all your associates are single?

@mosscarpet as above, I stand corrected.

God I'm even more furious now!

[quote cherrybakewellll]@whojamaflip oh really? See I like to think I'm fairly clued up but if I'm mistaken on this then i can fully see why people are confused! I stand corrected.

So basically if you're married/partnered and have more than 2 kids then you are buggered unless all your associates are single?[/quote]
To be fair, it is virtually impossible to keep up with all the rules!! But yes, basically anyone daring to have more than 3 children is basically buggered!!

If you are a family of 6 according to the new law you can't meet anyone else as it would take your numbers over 6. Unless you are bubbled with one (single) person.

I won't be able to meet anyone as we're a family of 7. It'll be ok when they're in school as presumably that'll be 'allowed'? As there will only be me or me & the 3yo in the house. It means the dc won't be able to see any family or have friends round for tea.

Depends if your kids are going to school. If they meet grandparents, there is added risk.

I appreciate why he's trying to get the R rate down. I work as a keyworker in the healthcare industry and I am aware of how horrid Covid is. A relative died from it.

I also live in an area where the rate is low. I am aware of how many Covid patients are in the hospital trust.

I guess I'm just furious. I say this as someone who generally doesn't like people that much, so god knows how people who are sociable beings feel!

I guess I should focus on the plus side which is my children weirdly adore eachother most of the time (obviously the boys fight at times) and we are healthy. I'm just angry at the not being able to see my parents thing.

Why not just use your common sense instead? Because you can now be fined for exceeding the 6. Using your common sense may work out expensive.