Family of 5

[cherrybakewellll]

Am I the only one who is now dreading being told as a family of 5 (3 kids in primary) we can no longer meet my parents from Monday?

If we had one less child or one more we would be able to?

Sorry if I'm being really thick! I know we have to wait and see the full list of exemptions later today but based on initial information?

This sums it up.

Is that right ? How is it then different to the current rules? I'd heard a family of five can only see one grandparent ...??

The fact you describe yourself as a BOJO fan makes me understand why you cannot apply common sense to this issue.

@MadamMooch I don't think the website has updated yet, they are showing the last update to the meeting people from outside your house as being the 2nd of September. I suspect it will update after tonight's press conference.

Ok and what if you are a single parent with 4 primary age children who has two parents, one of which has moderate dementia and cant be left alone. Normally visit on a weekend but that takes us to 7.

@ginsparkles oh bugger this is going to be utterly shit for people with multiple small children then.

They could easily get round this by counting children under 18 from the same family as 1.
I suspect as usual the rules will be nonsensical and open to interpretation.

My read is that it’s groups of 6, however if your family is 6 or over then you can’t meet anyone else as a group, not if you have a family of 6 or more you can meet another 6 people to make 12

I guess he couldn't have been clearer. It's permitted for 6 people in total, from any number of households. Anything more and you'll be arrested

We all have to follow rules we don’t like.

I’m sorry but if you decide to have X number of children - you now have to deal with the consequences. I realise that you didn’t foresee this pandemic, but that’s where we are.

You might be unhappy about this, but why should the majority suffer for the minority ?

Everyone seems to think they are an exception and that’s part of the reason we are here.

I feel totally depressed today.

We have been sticking to the rules we have avoided higher risk activities indoors no eating out or cinema etc. Even on holiday we stuck to outdoors activities only. After months of no support with our two disabled children we are now back to being isolated from our family again.

The only thing that kept me going was the thought that even with the two household restrictions we could at least have Christmas dinner with my parents. We bought national trust passes with my parents to be able to go on days out and now that’s not even allowed. The thought of Christmas eating dinner off our laps is totally depressing. Especially knowing we will be the only ones in our family put in that position as my brothers will still be able to go to in laws for family Christmas.

I don’t think it’s particularly fair for large families and previous to this I was all for using my common sense. Unfortunately they aren’t guidelines any more are they? Or even rules but the law.

Those snitchy/ curtain twitchers will have a field day.

Time2change2 they could be your support bubble and which would make it allowed.

So whilst my kids are at school with my friend’s children, I can have 5 other school mums in my kitchen. After school I can’t have my friend and her two children over, even though they’ve all been together all day. They’ve actually made the indoor rules allow more mixing!
Yet we only meet outside and can no longer see them as I have one too many children!

@Time2change2

Ok and what if you are a single parent with 4 primary age children who has two parents, one of which has moderate dementia and cant be left alone. Normally visit on a weekend but that takes us to 7.

If your a single adult household you can form a support bubble and then it is allowed.

@dippymootoo

So whilst my kids are at school with my friend’s children, I can have 5 other school mums in my kitchen. After school I can’t have my friend and her two children over, even though they’ve all been together all day. They’ve actually made the indoor rules allow more mixing! Yet we only meet outside and can no longer see them as I have one too many children!

But why would you do that ?

To be obtuse ? To ruin the progress? Because you can ? Because you are a rebel ? Because you hate the Conservatives ?

Just why would you put yourself and others at risk ?

@Angel2702

I feel totally depressed today.

We have been sticking to the rules we have avoided higher risk activities indoors no eating out or cinema etc. Even on holiday we stuck to outdoors activities only. After months of no support with our two disabled children we are now back to being isolated from our family again.

The only thing that kept me going was the thought that even with the two household restrictions we could at least have Christmas dinner with my parents. We bought national trust passes with my parents to be able to go on days out and now that’s not even allowed. The thought of Christmas eating dinner off our laps is totally depressing. Especially knowing we will be the only ones in our family put in that position as my brothers will still be able to go to in laws for family Christmas.

The guidelines were always six indoors. Now they can be from more than two households (which surely increases not decreases the risk) and have been formalised to ensure compliance and give police more powers when people break the rules.

You could still use the passes and just meet one parent or take it in turns which children go and your DH stay safe home with the others.

I’d rather have to curtail social life for a time to keep my family and others safe.

Meant your DH stay home, not sure where the random safe came from.

Those snitchy/ curtain twitchers will have a field day

No one would have anything to report if people abide by the law. Reporting someone breaking the law be it a gathering or break in etc isn’t snitching it’s other people looking out for others. Laws are there to protect society.

So I've followed both guidelines and laws throughout this.

The meal in a pub that I am being encouraged to go to with myself, parents, brother and sister in law is now ok on Tuesday, whereas it was against guidelines on Sunday? How is that a sensible move with cases increasing?

I'm going by posts on here, rather than waiting to see what is on the BBC. It wasn't on there when I looked a few minutes ago.

You aren’t buggered if you have three children. You can still see your parents... just not with your other half. There are ways and means aren’t there?

I wouldn’t do it, in fact no one has been in my house since March and nor will they as my son is vulnerable.

However they’ve made this legal so the high risk younger groups can all meet up legally indoors which is what I’m objecting to, the disparity in the rules. Which penalises me in my garden but allows a higher risk meet up inside for those that want to.

They are scrapping the household rule. It’s very simple. No more than 6 people to be gathered at one time unless it is a 6+ person household.

@dippymootoo

I wouldn’t do it, in fact no one has been in my house since March and nor will they as my son is vulnerable.

However they’ve made this legal so the high risk younger groups can all meet up legally indoors which is what I’m objecting to, the disparity in the rules. Which penalises me in my garden but allows a higher risk meet up inside for those that want to.

@Malachite234 sorry this reply was to you, I was making a point, not suggesting it was a good idea

@dippymootoo

I’m sorry

Many people actually do try to bend the rules like this constantly. I’m not even sure I can spot sarcasm on the corona virus threads 😂

In my mind.... running a marathon without training isn’t against the law .... but would most people do it ?