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Do secondary schools teachers really be to self isolate when a dc in a year group is positive?

36 replies

Blahbaa · 09/09/2020 08:34

Surely teachers should wear visors and/or keep 2m away from dc to prevent this. If a couple of year groups are having to self isolate plus the teachers surely this is going to cause the whole school to shut because of teacher shortages. If teachers wore visors if they have to go closer than 2m to a dc, and asked the dc they were too close to to wear a mask would this be preventable?

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noblegiraffe · 09/09/2020 08:37

Teachers are told not to wear masks in classrooms because it ‘interferes with teaching’ (this is the govt position).

Teachers cannot maintain 2m social distancing from the kids because classrooms are too small.

Parents will kick off at the suggestion that their kid wear a mask.

So we’re going to have to isolate if the kids get it.

Motorina · 09/09/2020 08:44

Also we don't actually know if wearing a mask is sufficient to prevent infection if you spend an hour in the same enclosed space as someone with the disease.

(We know that a visor isn't.)

Lockdownseperation · 09/09/2020 08:46

Wearing a visor without a mask is like wearing gloves without bikini to wear you warm.

starrynight19 · 09/09/2020 08:47

Just a shame the government sent all teachers back with the clear instruction no mask or face covering in the classroom then.

Blahbaa · 09/09/2020 08:49

Actually teachers at my dcs 2 different secondary schools are wearing visors and can ask dc to wear masks. They also have Perspex screens on the teachers’ desks. Isn’t this enough to prevent them being sent home?

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Blahbaa · 09/09/2020 08:50

And parents are more than happy for dc to wear masks. We’re not in a high risk area.

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noblegiraffe · 09/09/2020 08:51

So what you're saying is that you want teachers to keep working even if they have been exposed to covid?

Blahbaa · 09/09/2020 09:18

Not trying to be goady just wondering if there’s a way around it. Not wanting teachers at risk at all.

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motherrunner · 09/09/2020 09:22

I’m a secondary teacher in a high risk area.

Guidance states masks ‘interfere with teaching’ so I can not wear one - even in the corridors.

The guidance says I am safe as I should be able to maintain a 2m distance at all times. ‘Should’ being the key word here, I can’t, rooms are too small and the windows don’t open in 3 out of the 8 classrooms I teach in.

However, as the guidance does say I should be able to keep a 2m distance then if a year group closes because of a positive case I will still be required to go into school as I’m not counted as a close contact. Let’s just hope I don’t contract it as on the flip side I could pass it to my students and they wouldn’t count as close contacts!

Theredjellybean · 09/09/2020 09:24

@motherrunner

How is it that pupils being told to wear masks in corridors but teachers told they cannot...

PurpleDaisies · 09/09/2020 09:26

Teachers are wearing masks in corridors here.

noblegiraffe · 09/09/2020 09:28

Not trying to be goady just wondering if there’s a way around it.

That horse bolted when the govt refused any extra funding for schools.

Either teachers isolate when the kids get ill, or you risk teachers being superspreaders and giving it to the whole school.

Some schools will go for the second option.

motherrunner · 09/09/2020 09:31

[quote Theredjellybean]@motherrunner

How is it that pupils being told to wear masks in corridors but teachers told they cannot...[/quote]
Pupils aren’t being told to wear masks either. Only required on public transport.

PurpleDaisies · 09/09/2020 09:32

Pupils aren’t being told to wear masks either. Only required on public transport.

Some schools are requiring pupils to wear masks in communal areas. Loads are round here.

noblegiraffe · 09/09/2020 09:37

Masks in 'communal areas' but not classrooms is the biggest load of shite ever.

Walking past a kid in a corridor is far less risky than spending an hour in their company in a stuffy classroom.

motherrunner · 09/09/2020 09:38

I don’t know what to say. I’m reporting what I snap owning in my school. They are following the guidance to the letter so teachers and pupils aren’t wearing masks. I don’t feel safe at all but there’s nothing I can do.

motherrunner · 09/09/2020 09:38

*is happening

SaltyAndFresh · 09/09/2020 09:39

Teachers aren't being told they can't wear masks in corridors but the government explicitly says they are not recommending face coverings, and even where they are it's in communal areas (and for some reason classrooms of 30+ are not considered communal). Because the Govt explicitly said face coverings should not be used in guidance up to 28th August they are finding that they can't now backtrack and say they were wrong.

I wear a mask if I'm handing out books or if a student asks me to look at their work, but otherwise, as we've been told that they are not really for the benefit of the user, what's the point if we can't insist the kids wear them?

No plastic screens available (no funding). All I have is virucidal spray which I have to clean with six times a day. So yes I will have to isolate if there's a positive case.

noblegiraffe · 09/09/2020 09:41

No masks in my school either.

motherrunner · 09/09/2020 09:41

I have a pack of wipes that I’m required to wipe down the desk I use in each classroom and a bottle of sanitiser. That is my protection.

picklemewalnuts · 09/09/2020 09:42

I wonder whether the writers of the guidance are men who assume teachers are taller than pupils?

noblegiraffe · 09/09/2020 09:44

I think the writers of the guidance are fucking idiots who haven't set foot in a school since they went to one.

PurpleDaisies · 09/09/2020 09:45

Absolutely @noblegiraffe

I knew it would be rubbish when we had people referring to schools as “controlled environments”.

motherrunner · 09/09/2020 09:47

@noblegiraffe

I think the writers of the guidance are fucking idiots who haven't set foot in a school since they went to one.
This.

My mother in law told me I’m ‘worrying about nothing’ as ‘you’re away from the pupils’. She’s remembering class sizes less than 20 in a village, not the 1250 I teach in an inner city.

Rosehip10 · 09/09/2020 09:51

@Blahbaa Visors without masks are pointless.