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This will never end will it

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SleepingStandingUp · 09/09/2020 00:13

DS is in yr1. How will he ever get a decent education with schools having to close so much? There's only so much teachers can transfer online as a moment's notice. What happens when these kids get to secondary school and they've missed essentially years of education? I'm so worried they won't academically be anywhere near where they should be at 11 unless the parents can pay for additional tutoring. And then what about the babies, who aren't even 1? How will they even learn the basics when they're in and out of school from one month to the next? Will we just adjust our standards? Will formal education to extended? Or will the gap just widen and it be accepted that more and more kids will leave school barely literate and numerate because they didn't years of education at home whilst parents worked or otherwise inadequately supported their home learning?
And most of them will never get to do all the normal kid stuff. The school trips, holidays, big family parties. No meet ups with 20 cousins or whole class parties.

I feel so sick thinking about the life our kids are going to get and yes I know it's better than them or their parents etc being dead. We shielded DS all summer long. But what sort of adults will we create, not being allowed to touch other people being parents and siblings, not doing all the stuff that cements friendships, not getting a consistent education

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Justaboy · 09/09/2020 01:35

Its quite simple, it will end when we have an effecitve Vaccine for it.

Untill then it will contine to spread among the poplation, there will be a very slight heard immunity where the more people who have it will be risistant to devloping it again but that takes some time to devlop that sort of immunity. It may well mutate one way or the other we'll just have to see if i does that.

We need a vaccine, plain and simples!

Heffalooomia · 09/09/2020 01:39

@kittensarecute

Op I agree. Seriously considered suicide several times this year. I've lost everything good and enjoyable in my life.
I'm so sorry to hear this💐 how are you doing now? Is there anyone in real life you can talk to even if only on the phone?
notangelinajolie · 09/09/2020 01:46

It will end but not yet.
Due to WW2 my dad and the vast majority of children of his generation missed out on secondary education and any opportunity of further education. He still managed to get to the top his career. He used to say - where there is a will there is a way.

Everyone is in the same boat here - there is so much you can teach your children.

ViciousJackdaw · 09/09/2020 01:52

My kids are never going to go to school properly
They will get as much school as the next kid. Schools will change and adapt. You need to as well.

How do I pay home school 3 kids until good knows what age?
I'm assuming the 'pay' is a typo. You will home school the children in the same way every other parent will have to.

Look. Everyone is being affected. It isn't just your family. Children will learn - schools will make sure of that. They might do it in a different way than we are used to but they will do it. The more effort a parent can put in, the better. Even just teaching the DC how to cook something, getting them to find out about Edward Jenner, naming five types of ape, learning about the planets and space, it is all learning and there is no substitute for a good general knowledge.

In the kindest possible way, you really do need to stop catastrophising.

Pluckedpencil · 09/09/2020 02:02

One of my best friends grew up during the war in Lebanon (Beirut). She is excellent at tapestry because so much of her childhood was spent in the house, missing school, because outside, car bombs were going off. She tells me she missed a childhood of freedom, but her education didn't actually suffer too much. She got a degree, she travelled for a research year, she flourished. I live in another EU country where things are a bit stricter re. mask wearing and social distancing and the numbers do go down if people comply. We've been told there will of course be the odd time when a single class has to isolate, but they are keeping it to a minimum and I'm not expecting it will disrupt as much as all that. I think it will work out better than you think once the govt figure out the rules that matter.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 09/09/2020 02:27

A vaccine and/or a cure will be found and some things will go back to the way they were. Some won't.
Our kids will do better than the adults at adapting to the new normal.
because this will be their old normal. They won't miss what they never experienced.
When I started teaching we had chalk and blackboards and an 8-reel movie once a week. When I left teaching we had I-pads for everyone and instead of cursive writing they are teaching computer programing to 5-year-olds.
Our kids won't have the same world we did, but they will have an extraordinary one that they will build themselves.

cuparfull · 09/09/2020 02:50

Come on people....earlier generations suffered world wars, food rationing, epidemics, polio, typhus.....and survived.
The subsequent generation paid off Great Britains humungous war debt to America and the country managed.

We can get through this, we just have to dig deep and carry on. Yes, life will be different for a while but it will normalise again.

We must learn patience, which does not come easily to a generation raised on instant gratification.

HermioneMakepeace · 09/09/2020 02:52

Unfortunately, if we carry on eating animals, then we can expect further pandemics in the future.

Newjez · 09/09/2020 02:54

Oxford trial put on hold due to safety fears.

Does anyone know what happened?

Guineapigbridge · 09/09/2020 03:08

All those kids born during the war were just fine, OP. Their mothers and fathers worried about them too.

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SleepingStandingUp · 09/09/2020 04:00

@Shockingstocking

Why are you discounting the probability of a vaccine next year, OP? Is it interfering with your catastrophising?

The most successful countries don't have formal education at 5. If you're worried, you can actually teach much more successfully at home in a few hours a week if you have the time and you clearly have internet access.

Calm down.

Because they're now saying the Oxford vaccine isn't a go-er and we did home learning for 5 months. I just ended up neglecting the babies to try and push something into his brain that never seemed to stick. Maybe you're a better patent then I am and can do is, great, but we're not all instinctive teachers
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cbt944 · 09/09/2020 04:27

Because they're now saying the Oxford vaccine isn't a go-er

No, they are not. The trial is paused, quite properly and as usual, while they allow an independent committee to investigate whether or not the illness of the individual concerned is attributable to the vaccine or not. It may be utterly unrelated.

The Oxford vaccine is just one of many promising candidates in development, in any case.

Justaboy · 09/09/2020 10:52

We must learn patience, which does not come easily to a generation raised on instant gratification.

Absolulty blinking right that notion!!

And less 5G conspirces as well!

ChavvySexPond · 09/09/2020 12:42

"I didn't vote for the current govt, I can't vote for a new one for 4 years, exactly how would you like me to fix the test and trace system or change our policies for those of other countries?^ "^ *
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Honestly? I'd like everyone to educate themselves about what is effective and write to their MPs and ask why we're not doing what works.

^And for people not to support nonsensical bullshit like the back to school plan, "bubbles" and "covid secure"
^
People supporting this government's pantomime of a covid response perpetuates it.
^
And the chaos.

And I didn't vote for them either. Probably won't ever vote Conservative again tbh.^

PicsInRed · 09/09/2020 12:57

The world wars ended, people were educated, if anything, moreso as the govts were terrified that the plebs would tear the elites apart for "doing war" to them - more votes, more education grants (US), NHS (UK) etc.

It will end and in the medium term I think bribes similar to the post WW1 and WW2 periods will be given to the ordinary people in order to maintain stability and prevent unrest.

Just dig in and wait and you'll see.

IcedPurple · 09/09/2020 13:00

Or maybe it'll disappear, like smallpox.

Smallpox certainly did not 'disappear'. It was the subject of an extremely extensive global immunisation programme, leading to its succesful eradication 40 years ago.

JayDot500 · 09/09/2020 13:06

@IcedPurple

Or maybe it'll disappear, like smallpox.

Smallpox certainly did not 'disappear'. It was the subject of an extremely extensive global immunisation programme, leading to its succesful eradication 40 years ago.

Yes, that was my point. COVID will not vanish overnight, so even with a successful vaccine we will still be living with it for some time.
Remmy123 · 09/09/2020 13:25

These things never last - but may take couple years

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SleepingStandingUp · 09/09/2020 14:01

We must learn patience, which does not come easily to a generation raised on instant gratification. Curious to know what generation and age @cuparfull has decided I'm in

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 09/09/2020 14:01

Nothing lasts forever. This too shall pass.

Mummyto3gorgeousgirlies · 09/09/2020 14:52

@kittensarecute

Op I agree. Seriously considered suicide several times this year. I've lost everything good and enjoyable in my life.
@kittensarecute Does your doctor know you are depressed and suicidal? Are you on any medication that you can discuss tweaking? Please call the Samaritans or someone you love and trust for support. Don't go through this alone - there is light after Covid xx
Justaboy · 09/09/2020 18:47

Honestly? I'd like everyone to educate themselves about what is effective and write to their MPs and ask why we're not doing what works.

Well they most lilkely don't know what to do most of the time. Its I very much suspect the same in other countries.

Things are being discovered all the time with this virus some postive some the other way around what do you think any other goverment would or could do?, most of it is the way the Public behaves how are you going the alter that then?..

ChavvySexPond · 09/09/2020 20:23

@Justaboy

Honestly? I'd like everyone to educate themselves about what is effective and write to their MPs and ask why we're not doing what works.

Well they most lilkely don't know what to do most of the time. Its I very much suspect the same in other countries.

Things are being discovered all the time with this virus some postive some the other way around what do you think any other goverment would or could do?, most of it is the way the Public behaves how are you going the alter that then?..

We should follow the example of countries with deaths in the low hundreds, whose economies are looking healthy and whose population is living their life pretty much as normal but socially distanced or with a mask on.

The UK's coronavirus response was rated about 187th out of 192 countries so we have plenty of countries doing better than us to look at.

Only Brazil, Peru and the USA are consistently worse

BabyLlamaZen · 09/09/2020 20:31

It sounds awful now, but a year is nothing in a lifetime op. Flowers A lot can change in a year.

Justaboy · 10/09/2020 00:22

ChavvySexPond

Got any references for those facts?..