Surely they can’t keep schools open as normal if cases keep going up like today!

[Worriedmum999]

My daughter went back to school last Thursday. She really needed to go as lockdown played havoc with her mental health. She was fine doing her academic work but she is someone who needs the social side of school.

We are a vulnerable family and, with this shitshower of a government, I had no faith that cases wouldn’t rise and I wouldn’t be forced to take her out of school again. But I cannot believe that she has been back 2 days and the jump in cases has been so huge. I honestly expected us to be able to get to half term. Of course deaths are going to rise now. Why wouldn’t we follow the pattern of the other European countries. Add to that the fact that people can’t get tested now and we’re fucked. And I’m so fucking angry and upset about the damage that this is doing.

What are the government going to do? Surely it will be impossible to expect parents to keep sending their children to schools when the death toll is huge again and the ICUs are full.

Death rate is tiny and ICU's were NEVER full ever.

It's not a challenge.

These are still uncertain and scary times!
Schools in my area went back last week and already 4 of the Secondary schools have 1 case each, and my son's primary school has 1 confirmed case as of today.
As parents, we want to protect our children and it's so worrying that schools with confirmed cases are staying open.
The government don't care about us at all.

If the pattern of infection continues to be like that of European countries then this is a problem caused mostly by the late teens to early twenties part of the population. These are understandably fed up with being told to socially distance when the media keeps telling them that they are more or less immune to the serious side effects of the disease. Many in this age group are probably in fact infected without even being aware.

I guess that some of these may have spent the last few weeks before uni or work restarted at European tourist hotshots where kids can get together in clubs to party the night away, thus bringing the infection back to our shores and spreading it as they catch up with their mates back in the UK rather than observing the ludicrously unpoliced quarantine rules.

What we need is proper testing in airports for all those returning from abroad like they do in other countries the UK should be comparing itself too, not relying on people's social conscience to avoid spreading the illness when they may be asymptomatic and feeling fine.

Death rates are low because the government has put in place criteria that mean most covid related deaths are no longer included in the official data for... Covid deaths.

Ask anyone who works in the NHS if death rates and people getting seriously ill are tiny.

6 teachers in one school caught Covid and there is no news on how unwell they are so no, YANBU and you are certainly not catastrophising.

It speaks volumes about the morality of this country when we don't care who becomes unwell with potentially long term side effects (post viral fatigue syndrome anyone?) just so long as WE decide as individuals that we're happy with the hospitalisation/death figures.

Makes my stomach turn.

100 staff at Weston general hospital caught covid all at once a month ago. They all just isolated for 14 days and then went back to work. So 6 teachers aren’t that many really.

So 6 teachers aren’t that many really.

Depending on how many teachers in the school that could be enough to close the school. That's pretty significant

@MadMadaMim

Death rates are low because the government has put in place criteria that mean most covid related deaths are no longer included in the official data for... Covid deaths.

Ask anyone who works in the NHS if death rates and people getting seriously ill are tiny.

That is just simply not true.

I do work in the NHS (not that it means I have any inside info like most NHS workers!) And I can tell you the death rate is low.

The way England are reporting the Covid deaths are the way Scotland has been all along. What’s the big deal?

EDSGFC, there will be many work place out breaks including schools. Outbreaks in hospitals and care homes are much worse due to the vulnerability of the patients.

I am a bit concerned too. The number of cases does matter. The increase can lead to loosing control and having to close down again. It is a crucial moment now with winter not far and cases increasing at considerable rate. And then increases in deaths will follow ... And heard imunity doesn't make much sense with people catching the virus twice

I think this is being hyped up out of all proportion in the media 🙄- the rate is going up because there is far more testing being done therefore it follows that there will be more positive results.
Meanwhile, thankfully, the death rate is remaining very low currently.

It's inevitable that with the mass reopening of schools, colleges and universities, that the infection rate will just rip away, but it's impossible at this stage to predict how much severe illness and death will ensue, because not enough is known about the virus.

Personally I think we're collateral damage and we'll find out the hard way😞

What I'd like to see is for gyms, cinemas, foreign flights, bars, restaurants and garden centres to be closed before schools if the numbers means that the government wants to impose more restrictions again.

If government is serious about keeping schools that is what will happen- bet it doesn't.

The usforthem campaign in Scotland was started at a point when garden centres, shops and golf clubs were opened and numbers were low, but yet blended learning for the full academic year being proposed. The scenario has changed I agree, but at least schools are now on the agenda and in Scotland some effort to prioritise them is being made

Why wouldn’t parents send their kids to school ? School aged children are not getting ill from it No we arnt fucked atall. We have to get on with it sooner or later we are all going to get the virus and the vast majority or us will survive. We can’t all stay indoors for the rest of our lives

" think this is being hyped up out of all proportion in the media 🙄- the rate is going up because there is far more testing being done therefore it follows that there will be more positive results."

Donald trump made the same argument. In the uk increased testing might have accounted for increases when there were small outbreaks but testing was increased by 30% on the last week, and the % of people testing positive is now increasing too.

Meanwhile, thankfully, the death rate is remaining very low currently

People use this as an excuse to ignore guidelines though claiming it is all overblown and unneccessary etc. As in France Spain and America once cases spread through younger demographics it eventually spreads to older people and the trends change. Hospitalisations and deaths are now increasing slightly and regrettably may continue to do so for a few weeks as a result of recent increases in cases.

It is worrying that the testing system is buckling because we need to squash these spikes. There is a possibility that it is due to holidaymakers returning so could trend down like Germany instead of up like Spain and France. Not easy to be confident about this the way things have been handled so far.

I don't care. I need school and I need work and I need my operation reinstated. As it is I have no work now and so no money, I have school so thnk fuck, and my op is now fucking 9 months further down the line when I'd been waiting 12 months already. Fuck all of this.

@Nearly47

I am a bit concerned too. The number of cases does matter. The increase can lead to loosing control and having to close down again. It is a crucial moment now with winter not far and cases increasing at considerable rate. And then increases in deaths will follow ... And heard imunity doesn't make much sense with people catching the virus twice

Who has had it twice?

@Friendsoftheearth
"I would rather my children had their normal subject teachers and that is exactly what is happening - and will continue to happen. On line learning is no substitute for proper teaching! The connection, understanding, joint ideas, creativity and humour is all found in person in the class. Not to mention once doing GCSE physics, chemistry etc it becomes much harder to do online. The idea of children learning like robots virtually actually terrifies me, and it is detrimental to a child';s health and wellbeing."

Ironically we had both physics teachers off today as 1 has symptoms and the other has a child with symptoms. Looks like learning will need to be online for A level if it is going to take place. We are also missing 4 other staff due to symptoms and waiting for tests. They are all just being supervised by other teachers now, not their subject teachers.

Schools have great long lists of what eheyre supposed to be doing, we go that list but none of it is actually being done liek taking temps in the morning.

The jump in deaths from yesterday to today was from 2 to 30. go figure.

No, no, no, they need to go to school and keep going to school. They have already not been off for 6 months.

Usually at this time of the year hospitalisation increases with people with respiratory problems, flu etc anyway.

If you’re that concerned then keep your daughter at home. But I want my kids in school (and I say this as an ITU nurse)

I deeply appreciate what you're doing as an ICU nurse but I wouldn't want my children sitting beside your children without social distancing etc and I say that as someone with family members I would like to avoid you having to care for.

@mylifestory

Schools have great long lists of what eheyre supposed to be doing, we go that list but none of it is actually being done liek taking temps in the morning.

The jump in deaths from yesterday to today was from 2 to 30. go figure.

Ah yes because those 30 deaths are definitely attributable to schools not taking temps

@Oaktree55

It’s almost cruel to respond to the deniers of the fact we’re mid Global Pandemic. It feels like telling a six year old Father Christmas isn’t real. One thing that I’ve found astounding is the psychology behind some reactions/handling of the predicament. Apparently denial is a coping mechanism. Each to their own. I prefer being informed.

Totally agree. I can't understand the denial at all.

From what I understand, happy to be corrected, most new cases are in younger people now hence the latest Government brainwave of ‘Don’t Kill Your Gran’

Younger people are more likely to quickly recover or in some cases not even know they’ve had Covid

Two deaths recorded on Monday in the UK, BACK in April they were recording 800 at times

It’s inevitable that there will be new cases all the time and cases rising.

We have had absolute morons protesting for no reason, Extinction Rebellion a prime example plus many others including various BLM demonstrations, nothing wrong with protesting but pick your time .... NOT in the middle of a global pandemic that’s killed hundreds of thousands of people worldwide

Bolton has gone back into lockdown now, pubs closing ..... this will become a thing more often in a bid to curtail but I think schools are possibly the lowest risk and from what I’ve witnessed the majority of schools are well prepared and it’s extremely obvious that the kids safety is a priority

I'm willing to let my school inform me if my kids should be kept off. We have to live around this virus for now. Not a chance will I be keeping mine home unless I'm told to.