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I think it’s just me then...

59 replies

sunseekin · 04/09/2020 13:59

....I read stuff like this and know it can’t be. Some days it feels like everyone is carrying on as normal and I wonder if I’m worrying too much, then I read stuff like this and realise that the risk is still very much there.

www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/warning-not-hug-kiss-children-4483869?fbclid=IwAR2el28HIDg5tt77Fqp2apf3Jh595STYnudng4qJzFgxoXPJzmptLiI6STU

I wish there was more (any?!) support for people that want to be careful for just those few months longer.

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MrBucket · 04/09/2020 14:04

What kind of support are you hoping for?

Quartz2208 · 04/09/2020 14:07

@sunseekin what do you think that article actually says. That parents shouldnt hug children when they return from school (and the headline is slightly leading down that route)

Because the expert actually says

I think if there are highly vulnerable clinically shielding grandparents and others, that actually full-on hugging and kissing your grandchildren after they come back from school may not be the most sensible way to behave.

TheKeatingFive · 04/09/2020 14:14

What would that support look like?

MarcelineMissouri · 04/09/2020 14:16

Eh? Is anyone stopping you from being careful? Why do you need support for this?

Babs709 · 04/09/2020 14:18

I would encourage everyone to be as careful as they deem appropriate for their specific set of circumstances. The government can’t make 67 million sets of guidelines. If you are the clinically vulnerable which the article relates to, I would assume you have a medical professional available to discuss your specific circumstances and make a plan tailored to your clinical needs.

SqidgeBum · 04/09/2020 14:20

I dont think its too complicated; if you are vulnerable, it doesnt make much sense to come in direct contact with people who have extra exposure, whether thats nurses and doctors, or teachers and kids in school, or people who work in care homes. I am not sure what 'support' you would be looking for. You just make a decision to be careful, or you dont.

ChanceEncounter · 04/09/2020 14:23

I agree @sunseekin the bravado is hard to take. Of course some need to be careful - and if ecv GPs need to take care, so do ecv parents. The government knows this but is not being honest imo. And ecv children shouldn't be in potentially.

This is why we should be doing as they are in Wales and allowing those parents still concerned a bit more time.

Baaaahhhhh · 04/09/2020 14:28

or people who work in care homes

I'm sorry, but this just made me laugh. Don't come into contact with these people, when they are the very people who are looking after the most extremely clinical vulnerable people in society.

ChanceEncounter · 04/09/2020 14:32

@Baaaahhhhh

or people who work in care homes

I'm sorry, but this just made me laugh. Don't come into contact with these people, when they are the very people who are looking after the most extremely clinical vulnerable people in society.

Yes quite.

We have to shield the elderly and vulnerable, so it'd be really helpful if they could stop needing care, medical treatment or to live in care homes where the virus can spread!

MrBucket · 04/09/2020 14:34

Bravado, or people who have been pushed to the limit by restrictions trying to claw back semblance of a normal life while things are very much still not normal for many groups

Babs709 · 04/09/2020 14:37

Bravado would suggest people are acting tough in order to impress. I’d wager than any grandparent hugging their grandchild is not doing it to impress anyone else.

viccat · 04/09/2020 14:39

I don't know why people - like many of the previous commenter's here - find it so hard to be more empathetic about other people's different circumstances.

For example, I live alone and have no family anywhere nearby. Even though I'm not clinically in any of the at risk groups, I do feel more vulnerable because I'm on my own. When I read the stories from people who have had the virus and how they were really ill and their partners helped them, of course it makes me worry about what would happen if I got ill. I have friends nearby but obviously wouldn't and couldn't expect for any of them to risk getting the virus themselves. Obviously there is always the risk of other illness too but this feels different because you specifically need to stay in isolation. I had cancer or broke my leg, at least people would be able to come and help without the fear of catching anything.

But the flipside is also that I'm cut off from much of human contact at the moment and really for the foreseeable future. At least I'm an introvert anyway and quite like my own company so it's manageable. My next door neighbour though also lives alone and she is in the shielding group, and she's also a total extrovert who usually has lots of people visiting her. I can imagine it's been extremely difficult for her to not have that human contact for such a long time, and she still has to avoid so many things she usually loves doing.

I'm not sure what support there could be to be honest, and I don't really expect it, but I do wish people could just be a bit more understanding. Whatever happened to "be kind"...

MorrisZapp · 04/09/2020 14:40

Just a few months longer? How many months? And what's going to happen at the end to release us all back into normal life?

ChanceEncounter · 04/09/2020 14:41

I was talking about government bravado Hmm

No one would accuse grandparents of bravado FFS

Pinkmakeupbag · 04/09/2020 14:43

What kind of support are you looking for op?

How long do you mean when you say just a few more months? Christmas? February? Next Spring? Then what?

ChanceEncounter · 04/09/2020 14:43

@MorrisZapp

Just a few months longer? How many months? And what's going to happen at the end to release us all back into normal life?
My understanding is Sunseekin is only asking for their own child to be able to stay home.

What difference does that make to you?

Some families have additional concerns.

By 'support' I imagine she means not getting threatened with fines.

Babs709 · 04/09/2020 14:43

Sorry @ChanceEncounter. OP talked about “everyone carrying on” and you said “I agree” hence jumped to conclusions, but I see you reference the government later in your post.

Jrobhatch29 · 04/09/2020 14:44

Well it says if you are highly vulnerable don't hug the kids which is common sense. However there is no way on earth I am not hugging my kids for the duration of this!
What support would you like?

ChanceEncounter · 04/09/2020 14:45

I don't know why people - like many of the previous commenter's here - find it so hard to be more empathetic about other people's different circumstances.

Because some people are __s.

lifesalongsong · 04/09/2020 14:45

What exactly do you mean by being careful? I don't think anyone really needs any support to stick to social distancing, mask wearing etc or do you mean some kind of financial support?

ChanceEncounter · 04/09/2020 14:46

@Babs709

Sorry *@ChanceEncounter*. OP talked about “everyone carrying on” and you said “I agree” hence jumped to conclusions, but I see you reference the government later in your post.
S'ok. Clearly my post was not very clear as someone else responded the same!
MrBucket · 04/09/2020 14:49

my question about what kind of support was genuine

Babs709 · 04/09/2020 14:51

I don't know why people - like many of the previous commenter's here - find it so hard to be more empathetic about other people's different circumstances.

We don’t know anything about OPs circumstances. Most PP have asked what support OP would like. Where did lack of empathy come into it?

TheKeatingFive · 04/09/2020 14:51

Yes mine too. I’m just not sure what the OP is actually looking for?

sunseekin · 04/09/2020 15:24

@ChanceEncounter

I agree *@sunseekin* the bravado is hard to take. Of course some need to be careful - and if ecv GPs need to take care, so do ecv parents. The government knows this but is not being honest imo. And ecv children shouldn't be in potentially.

This is why we should be doing as they are in Wales and allowing those parents still concerned a bit more time.

Exactly. The bullying and bravado never seeks to amaze me. Perplexing. More and more will vote with their feet though. It’s just bonkers at the moment. Not sustainable in any shape or form either.
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