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Two days back at school and already needing to quarantine..

53 replies

Mummypig2020 · 02/09/2020 19:40

A local school to me, a child has tested positive after two days back which means the whole class has to quarantine for two weeks.

But a local restaurant a member of staff tested positive and the staff were tested the next day and all negative so reopened straight away.

How does that work?

OP posts:
CallmeAngelina · 02/09/2020 20:54

The Government's pledge was to get all schools open full-time for all pupils in September. By Monday, they will be able to say they achieved that aim, so it will be OK to start closing them again.

stovetopespresso · 02/09/2020 20:57

gonna be so hard for parents who work full time, and the kids who have been waiting so long

cantkeepawayforever · 02/09/2020 20:59

@CallmeAngelina

The Government's pledge was to get all schools open full-time for all pupils in September. By Monday, they will be able to say they achieved that aim, so it will be OK to start closing them again.
Exactly this.
Allmyarseandpeggymartin · 02/09/2020 21:06

Ugh I’m really starting to think I should have left DC in nursery (where they’ve been since June with no issues) instead of moving to reception class

ThisMustBeMyDream · 02/09/2020 21:09

Our local high school returned this morning. Tonight it's been announced a child returned and got a positive result this afternoon. Nothing clear yet re: why child was in school, most are assuming it was one of the random tests carried out for research purposes. Anyway, the children sat next to the positive child have been told to go home and isolate for 2 weeks. That's it!

Shopkinsdoll · 02/09/2020 21:17

historyrocks

There was a positive test at my daughter’s secondary school a few weeks ago (we’re in Scotland). Only a few children were told to quarantine and there’s been no further in

We are the same, our local primary had a positive testing, but only a handful of the child’s class have to quarantine, but not there families.

stovetopespresso · 02/09/2020 21:22

@Shopkinsdoll I just don't understand why not their families? not saying I think they should its just i thought they would have to...confused by the inconsistencies

notevenat20 · 02/09/2020 21:24

If it was after two days into the term they didn't catch it at school (5 days from infection to symptoms typically). I guess that's some relief?

CallmeAngelina · 02/09/2020 21:36

Maybe they didn't catch it in school, but thanks to their selfish decision to send the child knowing they might be infectious, they may well be directly responsible for others catching it there.

stovetopespresso · 02/09/2020 21:39

literally if your child coughs you have to step up and get them tested, its quite a responsibility

Shopkinsdoll · 02/09/2020 21:41

stovetopespresso

@Shopkinsdoll I just don't understand why not their families? not saying I think they should its just i thought they would have to...confused by the inconsistencies

Well let me explain, the children that are in the bubble of the child with the virus have to quarantine for two weeks also get tested. But the parents of of these children don’t need to isolate.

Shopkinsdoll · 02/09/2020 21:44

We are in Scotland

cantkeepawayforever · 02/09/2020 21:48

Shopkinsdoll,

Essentially, direct contacts of a confirmed positive case - so part or all of the child's bubble, and the child's own household - need to isolate.

Indirect contacts - so the families of children in the bubble, or the colleagues of the teacher if they are a close contact - do not need to.

just like if you are identified as someone who stood next to a confirmed positive case on the bus. You would need to isolate, but your family would not.

HOWEVER, if the initial direct contacts become infected and test as positive, then that ropes some more people in as direct contacts of the second case.

tigger1001 · 02/09/2020 21:49

[quote stovetopespresso]@Shopkinsdoll I just don't understand why not their families? not saying I think they should its just i thought they would have to...confused by the inconsistencies[/quote]
It's only people who have had close contact with someone who has tested positive who need to self isolate.

So I could be in close contact with someone who has tested positive and need to self isolate but my partner or my kids wouldn't have to as they hadn't been in close contact with someone who has tested positive

cantkeepawayforever · 02/09/2020 21:50

That is the English guidance, pretty much in all settings. Scotland's guidance may be different - that both direct and indirect contacts of a confirmed case have to isolate. However, that would indicate that a single case could close a school very rapidly through the indirect sibling links.

stovetopespresso · 02/09/2020 21:52

@cantkeepawayforever and @Shopkinsdoll thanks I think i get it now. its a pita innit.

TheSunIsStillShining · 02/09/2020 21:56

@stovetopespresso

literally if your child coughs you have to step up and get them tested, its quite a responsibility
I looked it up. If I want to get tested now in sw london I can get an appointment for a week on from now in Birmingham. So: come again re:testing?
AuditAngel · 02/09/2020 21:57

I remember being confused by the guidance earlier in the summer (May now have changed) that if exposed at school DD2 would need to isolate for 1 week but we would need to isolate for 2 weeks. How was she meant to get to school the second week?

ohthegoats · 02/09/2020 22:02

The Government's pledge was to get all schools open full-time for all pupils in September. By Monday, they will be able to say they achieved that aim, so it will be OK to start closing them again.

Yerp, that.

stovetopespresso · 02/09/2020 22:13

@TheSunIsStillShining that's shocking. schools have a few testing kits apparently (clutching at straws here to find rational policy approach)

dinosaurinmybelly · 02/09/2020 22:15

Guidelines are clear - if you have been in close contact with someone who tested positive for COVID you need you self isolate for 14 days. Sadly some parents are not following the guidelines and sending their children in to school because “ they had contact but it was outside” or “they were sat at a very large table so probably 2m apart.” Thinking it through - the idea that I’d knowingly send my child who was in any group setting with someone who tested positive to school where she might have contact with a pregnant teacher or a child with a vulnerable parent is so clearly selfish. Help me understand why this is happening please?

cantkeepawayforever · 02/09/2020 23:27

Help me understand why this is happening please?

Because the choice between the small risk that your child (who is at a low risk of serious harm) becomes ill and infects someone more vulnerable from whom you personally are remote, and the risk of imminent and very real eviction, redundancy and debt by being absent from work AGAIN is a very difficult one for many families.

MadameBlobby · 02/09/2020 23:34

Is the restaurant the same staff? The restaurant where my husband works, the staff are in “bubbles” so if there was a case only that bubble would need to isolate, the other bubbles could go into work.

ineedaholidaynow · 02/09/2020 23:35

I thought they had originally pledged that they would only open schools when they had a reliable test and trace system in place. They seem to have conveniently forgotten that.
Indeed it seems that they are using schools as their test and trace system.

Jessicabrassica · 02/09/2020 23:42

Husbands school have decided they'll make a plan if they get a positive case. I think it's when not if.
He works across all bubbles. I therefore think that makes the school a bubble.
I work with v vulnerable children and if a child in dh's school tests positive and he has to isolate, I am also choosing to work from home. There is no guidance to support this but he could well be positive but asymptomatic as could I. There's no testing for asymptomatic carriers. I'm not comfortable with the whole thing.