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Dreading DD going back to school

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MumtoEDSDD · 29/08/2020 12:15

DD is 6, going into year 2.

She has Joint Hypermobility Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, shallow hip sockets, and arthritis in her ankles. One of the best ways to keep her walking and healthy is lots and lots of little spurts of exercise.

I chose her state primary school as they have huge grounds, lots of outdoor learning and what they call a fluid curriculum. For infants (Nursery, then YR-Y2) this means lots of walking round their classroom deliberately to do things or get equipment on the other side of the room in the upper years this is lots of outdoor learning and trips, they also have toilets nearby to all apart from the year 5 and 6 classrooms. This is basically perfect for her paired with extra curricular activities that include exercise; swimming, gymnastics and dance.

DD really struggled for the first year at school as she was undiagnosed, so she got behind with her fine motor skills. Hardwork and physio got her back to herself. School since diagnosis has always been a big burst of physio for her supplemented by stuff I do at home and we’ve seen masses of improvements in all areas of her development, yes she has some adjustments to the uniform and is allowed to opt out of certain activities due to pain but otherwise she’s a normal 6 year old.

But now she will be expected to sit at a table for 4-5 hours per day only allowed to move from her seat at her allotted toilet break times. Outdoor playtime will be twice per week for 15 minutes if the weathers bad then it’s indoor play like the rest of the week. Lunch will be eaten at their tables in the classrooms, no walking to the hall and balancing it (which helps her). PE will be outside and will not take place if the weathers bad and DD won’t be able to take part either way as they are asking children to come to school in PE kit and trainers with no option to change, trainers do not offer her the support she needs to walk, and school have said she won’t have the chance to change her shoes so she misses it. There will be no little walks to the library or toilet, no getting up from her seat. No 1-1 work from either teacher or TA, no small group work in the class as they’re expecting year 2 and above to SD. No reading books. They will only be able to touch their friends during their playtimes. Teachers and TAs may choose to wear masks too.

The effect on DD could be catastrophic. If she’s in pain she stops walking, if this goes on too long she could end up in a wheelchair permanently.

This is not a criticism of the school or DDs lovely headteacher, they have tried to find a way round the rules for DD. They’ve always been flexible and put DDs health above the rules, but now the health of 420 children is at risk they can’t single DD out.

DD has never needed an EHCP as her needs are more physical and school have always helped with that. She has no behaviour problems. She used to love school; I can see this putting her off learning forever.

Corona sucks…yes I know it could be worse, but I have a right to be angry that my DD is being thrown under a bus basically. It will not be education, the heads admitted that in a letter, it will be babysitting to get the parents back to work which isn’t actually helpful to me as I work from home anyway.

I am considering deregistering, but the school is oversubscribed and she won’t get back into it if I remove her and want to put her back in it at a later date.

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Treesofwood · 29/08/2020 12:22

The school has massively over reacted with these rules? Next to no outdoor play even though they have massive grounds? Have you considered raising issues with the rules formally?

Treesofwood · 29/08/2020 12:24

Just don't send her, she will be unwell if you send her in, so don't send her. You don't have to deregister and they can't just remover her from roll for non attendance.

Redwinestillfine · 29/08/2020 12:25

I would raise with the school first and if they can't accommodate her needs I wouldn't send her in and I would seek legal advice and challenge any attempts to fine me in the courts.

Treesofwood · 29/08/2020 12:26

I would say the mental health of 420 children is being put at risk with no playtime except for 2 x 15 minutes per week.

Treesofwood · 29/08/2020 12:27

Other schools have managed to maintain playtime, reading books, movement around school. This is crazy. Imagine a school banning books???

Jrobhatch29 · 29/08/2020 12:27

It sounds like you have a lot on your plate but there are some serious things you need to question Confused
Why are they only having two playtimes a week? My kids school and the school I work in are having two as normal and outdoor time at lunch too. It's just staggered so other year groups are not there.

Also why is it babysitting and not education? Schools should be delivering their curriculum as normal. The "babysitting" was only relevant for key worker kids before the holidays.

Why is there no trips to the toilet?

I really don't think they can say she can't join in with PE as it is a legal requirement and don't think that has changed.

I'm quite confused by some of these things.

Parker231 · 29/08/2020 12:28

I’ve not heard of any school classing the new term as babysitting. It’s full on learning and back to the syllabus. I would challenge this with the school.

MumtoEDSDD · 29/08/2020 12:33

The playtimes is due to staffing, they usually have 2x 15 minute breaks a day but they don't have the staff so children will have indoor playtime apart from twice a week.

The PE thing is due to risk of spread apparently, staff aren't allowed to touch the children to help with changing and just doing DDs is too much of a risk. She's not the only one sitting out.

I think the head means it won't be education as we know it. The teachers will be at the front of the room teaching not getting down and helping the children to learn so many won't make much progress.

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halcyondays · 29/08/2020 12:34

They aren’t supposed to be babysitting any more, they’re supposed to be teaching.

Mine are at secondary but are still going to be going outside at break and lunch, with designated areas for different year groups. Going outside shouldn’t be an issue if they have massive grounds.

Jrobhatch29 · 29/08/2020 12:36

So who will staff the indoor play? Confused surely those staff supervising indoor play could just as easily take them outside

BunsyGirl · 29/08/2020 12:37

OP my DC’s went back to school in June and the focus was very much on being outdoors as that was considered safer from a Covid-19 point of view. Now that the weather is turning, the school have put marquees up all over the grounds to try to keep the kids outside as much as possible. I don’t really understand the logic of your school keeping the kids inside. I would query this with the school.

Treesofwood · 29/08/2020 12:38

I would be formally raising this with the governors. It sounds like obstructive planning as the Head doesn't agree with schools fully reopening to educate children.

freddiethegreat · 29/08/2020 12:43

I don’t get this either. I teach Y1 & Y2 & we will continue with outside provision (in bubbles), we don’t have to SD children within the bubbles, we will have books! Really, this is a problem with your school - it doesn’t have to be like that! In England anyway ... I am not suggesting it is like that in Wales, Scotland or Ireland either, I’m just not as familiar with their rules & procedures.

Rhubardandcustard · 29/08/2020 12:44

Anyway you can compromise with school and do mornings or afternoons only then you can spend the rest of time doing the exercises your dd needs and doing some home school working as well?

MumtoEDSDD · 29/08/2020 12:55

I'm not sure what the issue is with staffing outside playtimes.

I was thinking of flexi schooling when DD was in Reception and did really look into it then she got her diagnosis and things improved but it is something to consider.

It just seems all so ridiculous. It does look like opening is being obstructed.

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Pythonesque · 29/08/2020 13:09

If this is how its going to be there I suggest you start applying for an echo anyway while you continue to challenge their plans. Good luck.

Jrobhatch29 · 29/08/2020 13:11

I wouldn't be happy with this provision. Sounds grim to be honest only allowed outside twice a week. There is no logic behind many of the decisions.

clopper · 29/08/2020 13:25

That does sound ridiculous and over the top by the school. I think they should be able to single your DD out if she has particular physical needs. Also as pp mentioned what is the difference between staffing an indoor and outdoor play? They have all that outside space and they are not using it? Also crazy.

This is not a criticism of the school or DDs lovely headteacher, they have tried to find a way round the rules for DD.

I don’t think they have at all!

I am so glad my school is not like this ( am a teacher) we have the rows and have cut assemblies, pupils are not sharing equipment and teachers are being flexible about lunches, working times etc. We have a full curriculum planned out to help pupils catch up, certainly no babysitting.

MyMagicStars · 29/08/2020 13:48

Haven’t RTFT but huge sympathies for you- DD sounds resilient and fab. My Dd has adhd and hyper mobility, and so can relate to needing to move in some way! Would a set of stationary pedals under the desk help, to keep her ankles and joints moving? DD4 uses them when studying for long periods, they are quiet and fairly subtle. Do you work? Would it be possible for you to take her out of class during PE to walk around and do physio near the school?
Would you be able to try Velcro shoes, or do lots of practice to change her own footwear? Will try and have a think for you today! DD4 doesn’t have EDS but has a friend who does, and is doing very well at a uni which seems to really get her needs- there is hope!

MumtoEDSDD · 29/08/2020 13:59

@MyMagicStars

Haven’t RTFT but huge sympathies for you- DD sounds resilient and fab. My Dd has adhd and hyper mobility, and so can relate to needing to move in some way! Would a set of stationary pedals under the desk help, to keep her ankles and joints moving? DD4 uses them when studying for long periods, they are quiet and fairly subtle. Do you work? Would it be possible for you to take her out of class during PE to walk around and do physio near the school? Would you be able to try Velcro shoes, or do lots of practice to change her own footwear? Will try and have a think for you today! DD4 doesn’t have EDS but has a friend who does, and is doing very well at a uni which seems to really get her needs- there is hope!
School have said she's not allowed to change her footwear at all, it's too much of an infection risk apparently. She's one of 4 in her class subject to the same rules, and they all have to sit out of PE for the same reasons and they're the children that need PE the most as well.

Pedals are a good idea I'll look into those.

I'll hope the rules change by half term so the damage isn't too long term.

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Longwhiskers14 · 29/08/2020 14:02

Presumably they had the staff to oversee playtimes before Covid, so what's changed? Keeping them trapped indoors is the reverse of what other schools are doing - the more time outside, the less risk of a spread.

MumtoEDSDD · 29/08/2020 14:04

@Longwhiskers14

Presumably they had the staff to oversee playtimes before Covid, so what's changed? Keeping them trapped indoors is the reverse of what other schools are doing - the more time outside, the less risk of a spread.
I have no idea and I will be questioning this as I am confused. All we've been told is it's a staffing issue.
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KatherineOfGaunt · 29/08/2020 14:13

It will not be education, the heads admitted that in a letter, it will be babysitting to get the parents back to work

It should be education. Is the head seriously planning on just babysitting all the pupils in their school until... what? A vaccine? They're told they can get within a metre of children again?

I think this headteacher has it very, very wrong. And not just the education part, but the restrictions on outdoor learning/play and the no PE for your daughter and some others.

Other schools are providing an education, perhaps slanted towards English and Maths, but still with other subjects too. Lessons and playtimes are outside where at all possible for all pupils. PE lessons are for all and children are wearing their PE kits all day so they don't change in school.

Speak to the governors. What your daughter's school is doing sounds like they have COMPLETELY got the wrong end of the guidance stick.

TW2013 · 29/08/2020 14:24

My dd wears walking boots to do PE. It isn't ideal but has really cut down on injuries. Maybe also try to do some physio before and after school. If you are able to you could maybe take her out at lunchtime on days when she doesn't have PE for a walk around the area. My dd is secondary so more independent. If she is unable to do PE she does physio. Are there some easy physio exercises your dd can learn to do independently?

Waspnest · 29/08/2020 20:04

My DD is at secondary school and they've been told they will have to wear PE kit to school on PE days. Could your school not do that?

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