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Wish I wasn't a teacher because of Covid

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NebularNerd · 27/08/2020 20:08

In my family/friends circle, I am the only one who will be face to face with 150+ people per day with no PPE, no social distancing, nothing.

I have one relative who is not expecting to return to the office this year.
Another who now only works in the office two days per week, in a building where numbers are severely restricted, one way systems, spaced out desks etc.
Another friend who is also able to wfh for the foreseeable future.

I can't help but think that had I made a different career choice I would not now be faced with contracting a potentially life threatening virus and passing it on to my clinically extremely vulnerable husband or elderly parents.

I will go to work and try to ignore what's going on in the world and do my best. But I wish I could be made to feel safer - screens, masks, fewer pupils, something.

I hope I'm worrying for nothing, but it is getting difficult to sleep at night.

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Flaxmeadow · 31/08/2020 19:38

I will not

Misquoting other posters is against the site rules.

mumsneedwine · 31/08/2020 19:40

Scotland has largest number of cases for 3 months. 2 weeks after schools went back.Coincidence ?

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 31/08/2020 19:40

Best report me then.

Flaxmeadow · 31/08/2020 19:40

Just concern that you don’t seem to be able to keep up with fairly basic posts.

Thanks for your concern. Is there anything in my posts you disagree with? You can quote me and we can discuss it

Flaxmeadow · 31/08/2020 19:45

Best report me then.

I don't want to report you.

I just want to discuss our education system and covid, Gov't policy on getting back to schools opening, and maybe give some advice for teachers who will soon be going back to work. But it's not easy when you repeatedly misquote other posters or just reply with one liners like "oh dear"

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 31/08/2020 19:45

I'd start your own thread if I were you.

IloveJKRowling · 31/08/2020 19:51

Well I'm not a teacher and I'm worried for teachers.

I'm also worried for children because they generally love their teachers and I think it will be pretty hard on their mental health if their teachers get ill (even if their parents don't care a fig). Plus if teachers are ill then they can't work and the children they teach miss out on education. It's not that easy to parachute teachers in.

I still don't understand why it's deemed essential everyone wear a mask in shops (which I agree with) but somehow schools are different. They're not, they're an environment in which the virus can spread, as it can anywhere where there are people crowded together for long periods. Particularly where no masks are worn.

As PP have noted, cases in Scotland have gone up since schools have opened.

noblegiraffe · 31/08/2020 19:52

@Flaxmeadow

Just concern that you don’t seem to be able to keep up with fairly basic posts.

Thanks for your concern. Is there anything in my posts you disagree with? You can quote me and we can discuss it

Lots I disagree with, literally nothing worth discussing with you.
SaltyAndFresh · 31/08/2020 19:54

@IloveJKRowling I will have a Year 7 form and this concerns me a bit. With all their needy loveliness it would be an absolute shitshow if they end up with supply for any length of time.

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 31/08/2020 19:56

Just to recap the thread, OP posts about her worry returning to school when her husband is in the ECV group (so shielded), and she has elderly parents.

Below are a selection of replies she has received, all just copied and pasted.

that makes you sound really thick’, ‘you’re much more likely to survive than not.’, ‘ I just can't believe the attitude of some teachers’, ‘I don't normally comment on teacher woe is me threads, but I know too many people actually out there dealing with people, and have been for months when teachers are still on their break!’, ‘paranoid nonsense’, ‘paranoid and bonkers’, ‘I'll leave you to your mad fantasies.’, ‘Teachers are not special.’, ‘ I think you have a pretty good deal. ‘, ‘If you can’t accept that children’s education must be prioritised, then maybe the profession is not for you.’, ‘the future of children in this country is lost,’, ‘It’s just a minority who expect other professions to take risks, while they take none themselves,’, ‘No sympathy from me I’m afraid, that they’ve had the luxury of shielding for 6 months and are now complaining about having to go back to work in a relatively safe environment’, ‘A lot of my family work in hospitals and can’t get over the attitude of SOME teachers.’, ‘I’d hate to think of a teacher passing on their anxiety to children’, ‘an air hostess could have a terrorist onboard and if the plane crashes that's it.’, ‘Just trying to point out that I've never seen so much whining here from teachers. It's a disgrace.’, ‘Honestly if it was making me that worried I would give my job up and search for another.’, ‘ If it wasn't for Covid, a teacher would have a very low risk profession’, ‘ I think some people do need to get over it and it’s an insult to others without PPE. Teachers are under an illusion that they have it harder than anybody else yet the majority have WORKED FROM home.’, ‘ I suggest you just get on with it’, ‘I don’t think the virus is how the Gov have made out to be.’, ‘Are all the teachers falling dead in Scotland??? Because from the teachers POV on MN you would think so.’ ‘Go and get a different job if you concerns are not what you can overcome’, ‘we will all die eventually but the chances of dying from Covid are pretty low and minuscule for young otherwise healthy people.’, ‘Life threatening? Really? Do you worry about getting flu from the children? I think you are over exaggerating the risks....’, ‘ For goodness sake people need to get a grip. The risks are miniscule’, ‘I think people need to accept the risk that comes with people facing jobs or they need to leave if they feel they can’t do that.’, ‘Flu has a much higher death and infection rate than Covid!’, ‘there is no perspective on the teacher threads. The complaining is way out of proportion to the risk’, ‘Teachers aren’t dropping like flies in Scotland.’, ‘Why should teachers be any different to everyone else?’, ‘I think teachers need to stop moaning if they want to stop @teacher bashing”. The risks are very small.’, ‘Seriously get a grip. You've said yourself that risk of transmission is low, what makes teachers so different to nurses, supermarket staff, delivery drivers etc?’, ‘Why can't you provide your own ppe as I have? Absolutely ridiculous’,

FrippEnos · 31/08/2020 19:56

Flaxmeadow

So you are having a go at a poster for not doing something your way.

Everything that MilesJuppIsMyBitch has posted is factual.

Like so many you just don't like it when it is tracked and pointed out to you.

stairway · 31/08/2020 19:58

IloveJKRowling, I don’t live in a rough area but still I don’t know anyone who wants their children or teacher to get ill. Parents don’t make government policy either. Secondary schools can insist on masks now. My son’s schools are doing just that. It’s up to the headteacher I believe.

FrippEnos · 31/08/2020 19:59

Cyw2018

You may have a point, but it still doesn't mean that teachers are going to be going into school with a minimal amount of preventative measures in place.

FrippEnos · 31/08/2020 20:00

that teachers aren't going

stairway · 31/08/2020 20:01

Not everything Miles has posted is factual, it’s just her opinion. She thinks posters that have already been in the situation that teachers are now in are being patronising when giving advice. That’s fine it’s her opinion but it’s not fact.

Piggywaspushed · 31/08/2020 20:01

flax with the best will in the world, I am not sure you are placed to supply advice to experienced teachers.

MadameBlobby · 31/08/2020 20:04

@mumsneedwine

Scotland has largest number of cases for 3 months. 2 weeks after schools went back.Coincidence ?
Time will tell. I imagine test and protect are trying to work out where the transmission is. Is current thinking not that it’s largely down to indoor gatherings? If it’s linked to schools, I see a return to blended learning soon.
FrippEnos · 31/08/2020 20:05

stairway

some maybe paraphrased but its all there.

Piggywaspushed · 31/08/2020 20:08

The 30 odd teachers who got it at a special school may not have got it from children (although who knows unless they test them all and Nick Gibb has said no tests for asymptomatic people; may not be the same in Scotland) but I think we can all be fairly sure the 'indoor gathering' that all the teachers were at wasn't a rave at the weekend...

Shitfuckoh · 31/08/2020 20:31

@Piggywaspushed

The 30 odd teachers who got it at a special school may not have got it from children (although who knows unless they test them all and Nick Gibb has said no tests for asymptomatic people; may not be the same in Scotland) but I think we can all be fairly sure the 'indoor gathering' that all the teachers were at wasn't a rave at the weekend...
Oh come on Piggy. Raves are so last season. All the fun is in the staff room with the coffee on the coffee breaks no one ever gets (and defo won't get now!)
Piggywaspushed · 31/08/2020 20:37

Well, maybe it was rave, followed by a hungover get together by the kettle?

On a completely unrelated note, when did this country shift from imagining everyone on teabreak (with a Digestive please) to 'coffee breaks'?

Shitfuckoh · 31/08/2020 20:41

I don't drink tea so it's all coffee breaks to me - that S is extremely important and one of the reasons why I can not be a teacher.

Enoughnowstop · 31/08/2020 20:46

We all need to get back to work and there will be some risk involved. But the risk of COVID are very small especially for young otherwise healthy people. So let’s get back to it

@CayrolBaaaskin. So you are back at work? In a small room with 32 people, no social distancing, no ventilation? For 6 hours a day? Not able to have a cup of coffee in work? With an expectation that you don’t go out to protect those you work with? No PPE allowed?

CallmeAngelina · 31/08/2020 20:49

My mother used to have coffee mornings back in the 70s, with lots of screeching women all dolled up.
She had a one of those percolator thingies that made scary gurgling noises, with posh biscuits that we kids never got a look in with.

CallmeAngelina · 31/08/2020 20:50

Yes, @CayrolBaaaskin. Do tell us what your job is.

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