Wish I wasn't a teacher because of Covid

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In my family/friends circle, I am the only one who will be face to face with 150+ people per day with no PPE, no social distancing, nothing.

I have one relative who is not expecting to return to the office this year.
Another who now only works in the office two days per week, in a building where numbers are severely restricted, one way systems, spaced out desks etc.
Another friend who is also able to wfh for the foreseeable future.

I can't help but think that had I made a different career choice I would not now be faced with contracting a potentially life threatening virus and passing it on to my clinically extremely vulnerable husband or elderly parents.

I will go to work and try to ignore what's going on in the world and do my best. But I wish I could be made to feel safer - screens, masks, fewer pupils, something.

I hope I'm worrying for nothing, but it is getting difficult to sleep at night.

Can I mention the word "hysterical"? As soon as it is used, I judge the poster to be an utter twat.

MilesJuppIsMyBitch

I'm finding it hard to read your last post because you're mixing quotes of comments people have made with comments they havent made, and putting them all in quotation mark's

@Flaxmeadow

MilesJuppIsMyBitch

I'm finding it hard to read your last post because you're mixing quotes of comments people have made with comments they havent made, and putting them all in quotation mark's

Oh dear.

MilesJuppIsMyBitch
Ah! so you can use the quote system
That would be great in future

Kids are already back in Scotland and it’s fine. We don’t see the sort of defensiveness of some teachers on mn from any other profession- I do wonder why. No one else claims that you are just “bashing” their profession if you dare criticize their industry. No one else has the oh so funny bingo. No one else claims any criticism is a Russian conspiracy. It’s a strange mentality. Maybe it’s just the clique on here - I do hope so.

We all need to get back to work and there will be some risk involved. But the risk of COVID are very small especially for young otherwise healthy people. So let’s get back to it.

Russian conspiracy eh???

Blimey, that's a new one.

Have you not been on this thread already to hand us all our grips?

Yes SaltyAndfresh I did look after covid patients. I wasn’t on a covid ward but during the peak they were spread throughout the hospital so I I had to look after Covid and non Covid patients at the same time which was typical for my colleagues and most ward nurses I believe. We all wore the masks and about 10 percent caught covid according to the antibody tests. So I reckon the masks might have given us possibly 90 percent protection possibly. The patients never wore masks either. We did things like personal care, suctioning the mouth, feeding via NG tube etc. So we were all very close to the patients in very confined non ventilated places.

Aaaaaand we're BACK! Housey housey.

‘We don’t see the sort of defensiveness of some teachers on mn from any other profession- I do wonder why. No one else claims that you are just “bashing” their profession if you dare criticize their industry. No one else has the oh so funny bingo. No one else claims any criticism is a Russian conspiracy. It’s a strange mentality. Maybe it’s just the clique on here - I do hope so’, ‘our two schools did diddly squat.’, ‘I was doing my bit by helping others and by especially helping and talking to some of the elderly customers who were nervous and scared.’ (But I think teachers who are nervous and scared shouldn’t be teaching). ‘How is this different to anyone else working in a supermarket or restaurant or pub? ‘But it's very unlikely that those breathing will ha e the infection. Its not the dark days of March and April anymore’, ‘Let's just hope no teacher dies or is left with long term health issues: But that's the risk we all have to take’
‘so many comments on teacher threads seem irrational ‘,’just complain and bitch online’, ‘Make a stand or accept the situation. ‘
‘Instead of complaining do something constructive about it. ‘, ‘ I want my children to be taught by confident teachers who have a passion for seeing their pupils thrive.’ And yet here I am adding to the kicking).
‘I hope you all enjoy your time back at your job, working and contributing to our society as it should be.’ ‘If you don't like it leave.’ ‘14 weeks paid holiday.’ ‘It's not exactly working a covid ward with rubbish ppe, 12 hour shifts for weeks on end, less pay and watching people die now is it! ‘, ‘It's a vocation.’ ‘The amount of hand wringing on here from teachers gives us all a bad name’, ‘perhaps you should consider being signed off work if you cannot rationalise the risks involved’, ‘What about the supermarket workers who have been in close contact/no PPE throughout the pandemic. The hospital workers who have been exposed? Bus drivers.’, ‘This virus needs to be lived with.’, ‘you either suck it up or don't go in’, ‘I'm not sure what else you want to happen’, ‘This is so out of proportion it's unreal’, ‘Are you scared of flu?’, ‘they don't put people on ventilators as much’, ‘Sick of this shit’, ‘This fear only seems to have gripped Mumsnet’, ‘This is not the bubonic plague’, ‘children have suffered the most throughout all this and if you (teachers) can't see that then maybe you should take up a different career’, ‘these teacher on here are wetting the bed every night about a tiny risk.’, ‘mental health in children has always been there’, ‘what other job would you feel safer in?’, ‘they just don't have the option to sit home on full pay,’, ‘It could be worse, we could be in Beirut or Colombia’, ‘ I'm sure you are not irreplaceable’, ‘Any comment from teachers about the restaurant workers working 7 days currently? ‘, ‘If you are that scared/anxious of the virus then please do resign’, ‘you're talking like you're the only people on earth who are at risk of COVID’, ‘Think of the children ‘,

‘Surely it must be reassuring that the only people who believe teachers are at incredible risk are in fact teachers?’
‘If you have underlying health conditions I suggest you try and get signed off by your GP, I have colleagues that have done this. If it’s just anxiety then you must realise that the vast majority of healthy adults either are symptomless or have mild versions of Covid. I’m not bashing you I’m trying to make you feel better.’, ‘I think it's harder to understand what's been going on out there in the workplace if you've been working from home for the last 6 months and its understandable that all kinds of fears might get blown out of proportion because you're not used to it’, ‘People are not criticising teachers, I think they're more not understanding what the fears are. ‘, ‘ We are just trying to make you feel less scared if anything. It’s not teacher bashing.’,

Happy to bash some other people's jobs if you'd like balance restored.

Only, I am not that insensitive.

We only ever had the very simple paper masks that are easy to buy now.

Thank you for the info. I'm going to look into more efficient masks.

Ah yes, on Friday 28 August

Schools are already back in Scotland

cayrol, I think you may have lost track on which threads you land on to share your wise thoughts.

Also I suggest you bring a hand gel with you and gel your hands regularly like nurses do. You will reduce your risk significantly.

@Piggywaspushed

Russian conspiracy eh???

Blimey, that's a new one.

Have you not been on this thread already to hand us all our grips?

Oh I think that was me, pointing out that we have had Russian bots on this forum spreading propaganda before.

Interesting that it has been happening on twitter about coronavirus too.

www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/20/859814085/researchers-nearly-half-of-accounts-tweeting-about-coronavirus-are-likely-bots?t=1598897567376

“Reuters reported in March that Russian media have recently deployed a widespread disinformation campaign against the West to worsen the impact of the coronavirus to create panic and distrust.”

... the kicking

There is no kicking or bashing. If you think there is then quote it properly and debate it. Instead of repeatedly making pointless one line declarations, followed by a long stream of no paragraphs and mixed up quotes and missquotes.

@Flaxmeadow

... the kicking

There is no kicking or bashing. If you think there is then quote it properly and debate it. Instead of repeatedly making pointless one line declarations, followed by a long stream of no paragraphs and mixed up quotes and missquotes.

I will not.

I will probably get shot down for this, but...

I think teachers (and some other professions now returning to work) have had way too much time on their hands to overthink and dwell on all things covid related.

I'm a paramedic I've been frontline with covid19 all the way through and cared for my share of covid positive patients (who were very sick and symptomatic), and honestly the most stressful part off it all has been the information overload in the early days and the constant change to protocol/practice, not the actual virus.

Once teachers get a few weeks back into it they'll wonder what all the fuss had been about. Some schools will have to isolate bubbles and some teachers will get sick, but so will a steady proportion of the non teaching population. Life goes on.

We only ever had the very simple paper masks that are easy to buy now

Poundland do 2 for a £1 or you can get 10 for about £3.50 in some places. I think Aldi are selling those

Also SaltyAndfresh what me and my colleagues did during the pandemic was get changed before going home, put all clothes into the washing machine and have a hot shower when getting home. I never brought my work shoes into the house either. At the end there are things we have no power to change but there are still things we can do to protect ourselves.

@Flaxmeadow

... the kicking

There is no kicking or bashing. If you think there is then quote it properly and debate it. Instead of repeatedly making pointless one line declarations, followed by a long stream of no paragraphs and mixed up quotes and missquotes.

Oh Flax have you ever considered using a less taxing forum? Is Club Penguin still going?

Oh Flax have you ever considered using a less taxing forum? Is Club Penguin still going?

I haven't got a clue what Club Penguin is or why I should consider it

Do you have anything constructive to add? Or are you just wanting to have a bash

These posts are interesting, because they look like valid concern on the surface, but are splendidly patronising.

Splendidly.

(Also, misleading at best).

I think teachers (and some other professions now returning to work) have had way too much time on their hands to overthink and dwell on all things covid related. ‘ ‘At the end there are things we have no power to change but there are still things we can do to protect ourselves.’
‘Surely it must be reassuring that the only people who believe teachers are at incredible risk are in fact teachers?’
‘If you have underlying health conditions I suggest you try and get signed off by your GP, I have colleagues that have done this. If it’s just anxiety then you must realise that the vast majority of healthy adults either are symptomless or have mild versions of Covid. I’m not bashing you I’m trying to make you feel better.’, ‘I think it's harder to understand what's been going on out there in the workplace if you've been working from home for the last 6 months and its understandable that all kinds of fears might get blown out of proportion because you're not used to it’, ‘People are not criticising teachers, I think they're more not understanding what the fears are. ‘, ‘ We are just trying to make you feel less scared if anything. It’s not teacher bashing.’,

Do you have anything constructive to add? Or are you just wanting to have a bash

Just concern that you don’t seem to be able to keep up with fairly basic posts.

That bot article is really interesting noble. I follow a twitter account which analyses bot activity. It's a powerful tool.

OMZ @noblegiraffe I love Club Penguin. Haven't seen it in years.