Two nurseries confirm cases in South Ayrshire.

[FelicityPike]

One state, one private both with staff and children with confirmed cases.
Not terrifying at all.

What is your point?

Just saying.
Especially when yesterday there were still articles saying that under 12’s can’t catch it.

You can test positive and not be seriously ill get a grip!

I do think there are some people who really do not want people to mention outbreaks in schools. Or show that children really do get it (even though it is almost invariably mild in Dc)

@FelicityPike

Just saying. Especially when yesterday there were still articles saying that under 12’s can’t catch it.

If you believed the bull that under 12s can't catch it more fool you!

Cases are going to happen in nurseries and schools. Just like all sorts of other viruses happen in these settings. Luckily children seem to get it quite mildly (with the exception of severe underlying health conditions).

I am not a "its just the flu" person but we cannot stay locked down with no school for years and years. We did to stop the NHS being overwhelmed and to buy us some time to learn more about the virus. Now we have to start getting back to some normality for the sake of all of our mental health, wellbeing and the economy.

If your DC attends a setting where they have been in the same classroom as a child who tests positive, then your DC will need to quarantine for 14 days (this is not 'test and release' as they may be incubating)

I hope everyone has made their plans about how they will keep their DC entirely at home for a fortnight

@FelicityPike

Just saying. Especially when yesterday there were still articles saying that under 12’s can’t catch it.

Of course under 12s can catch it. It's just that they're highly unlikely to be seriously ill from it.

We can’t all stay at home. We have to live with the virus or shield as your health dictates.

Where is the second nursery, I’ve only heard of Troon.

And no, it’s not “terrifying”.

Not terrifying at all. What an overreaction. You can't expect no cases at all in any nursery/school, it's unrealistic.

The worrying part in isnt catching it, its the unknown long term consequences that may occur from it. We know that radiographic lung damage is visible, but not yet how much of that is permanent. We also see it can affect the rest of the body, with blood thinning drugs needed in severe cases.

As a disabled person I'd find it pretty terrifying if my child contracted Coronavirus.
OP it is fine to be worrying about this. Cases in children are going to rise by quite a large amount and some of those children will be very poorly, I don't feel that's something to be cavalier about at all.
However there is no other option, schools have to open.

I would fully expect there to be cases as people mix.

Children will transmit it of course!

I have accepted it is likely I will catch coronavirus at some point, most likely via my kids being at school.

Of course I would rather this was not the case however this is the reality. The alternative is never go out again 🤷‍♀️

I've had a few friends use the word terrifying about transmission in schools. Wonder if they're MNers

Having to quarantine for 14 days would be awful, we're only just beginning to have some slight sense of normality return and I'm only just beginning to make up some of the ground lost at work. Aaargh.

Fingers crossed the children are OK and the outbreak is contained.

Absolutely no one has said that under 12s can’t catch it.

We can’t all stay at home. We have to live with the virus or shield as your health dictates

Shielding is currently paused, and even if it wasn't, it would be utterly heartless to just lock up 3% of the population indefinitely (that's people of any/every age, there are no age categories for shielding).

And I can't see any comments on this thread recommending that everyone stays home.

I did say that you need a good 14 day plan should someone in your family be in a setting that closes. Because you/your DC will need 14 days isolation if/when that happens.

No 'test and release' for asymptomatic people when it is less than 14 days since exposure

And that's total isolation - not lockdown conditions

(Rather like the shielded did for months earleirt this year, and you seem happy to consign them to again

I agree I think there is an effort to play down outbreaks in educational settings and of course it's worrying that young children can catch it and suffer the consequences.

The narrative in the papers for so long has been children aren't affected in the same way etc with no consideration that adults work in these settings...and yet here we are with a big U turn on mask wearing in secondary schools.

I agree that children need to return to educational settings in some capacity but the reporting should be clear and no more publications based on useless studies that don't reflect real school settings.

@SexTrainGlue I'm prepared (as much as possible) for disruption / having to isolate. It'll be a nightmare with 3 DC but doable.
My issue comes with if we isolate for 14 days, no symptoms. Back to school, for the 'bubble' to have a case again. Another 14 days isolation? Then there might be a day or 2 of having to close to clean the school if there's cases in other 'bubbles'.

@FelicityPike no its not terrifying. Getting COVID doesn't necessarily mean you are going to get seriously ill.

Look at the low hosital admissions, and low ventilation levels before you start panicking, let alone the low death rates.

COVID needs to work its way through the population. Yes we may not get immunity, but your body will create t cells, so the next time you get it, it affects you less and so on.

Unless you have serious underlying health conditions, or are over about 65, COVID isn't something to be terried of

I don't accept that covid "has" to work it's way through the population. I'd rather not expose me or my children to a virus we know very little about. I think it's fine and normal to be worried about this eventuality.

@Beebityboo thats your choice, doesn't mean everyone else has to live like that.
And the virus will spread round the population whether you like it or not. I personally would much rather build up some immune response to it.

Unless you have serious underlying health conditions

Thing is there’s actually quite a lot of people who either have underlying health conditions or their partner does.

I’m not worried about my kids catching Covid (I doubt they would even notice). The odds are very good for me being fine. But Dh is at risk and already has damaged lungs.

So I’m nervous, I teach secondary and will have to teach 200 + kids a day across 4 massive bubbles.

I want the kids to go back - they need school. But I also want regular testing of asymptotic teachers (and willing pupils) to try and stop this thing spreading.

@Shitfuckoh

Yes, that's the nightmare scenario, isn't it? And one that's quite possibly going to have huge impact on some households and very little on others.

Not just schools (though without plans for good off-site learning, that's going to really mess up for some) but also every part of life for those affected.

It's why we all need to be diligent in keeping away from people (always 2m+ unless you really need to be closer and can mitigate), have good hand hygiene, and isolate properly if called to do so.

I'm in Scotland. The bubble thing doesn't work the way people think it does. A primary school near us had a child test positive. 'Close contacts' of that child at school (and presumably outside of school) were contacted. The whole class hasn't had to stay at home, nor did the school close for cleaning. Otherwise it would be ridiculous and the kids would be off constantly.

There are a lot more 'rules' now about when to keep a child at home, for example any cold symptoms at all and parents are recommended to keep them at home.

Why is it terrifying? Some people have tested positive, doesn't even mean they actually even have symptoms or are that unwell. Doesn't mean they are dead. Are we going to have this everytime there is a case in a school I wonder.