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Symptoms and school

26 replies

Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 11:20

The Times is reporting in Scotland test centres are swamped with children with 'sniffles' who have been told they must 'isolate the family and get tested' over cold symptoms

Our school (SW) gave us a flow chart which says about the usual ones - cough and high temp, loss of smell, and said to use that. And not the whole family, just the child to get tested (or if on contact with a confirmed case)

Just wondered what advice others have been given.

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SleepingStandingUp · 25/08/2020 11:21

Same as you, the main symptoms and just the person with them to get tested. But symptoms will pop the while class bubble

Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 11:25

If whole families are isolating for sniffles for months surely this will be incredibly disruptive. Plus the concern is people with severe symptoms won't be able to get tested (in Scotland)

Some of them were even being sent to England due to not having enough space. Feel glad not being given that advice to be honest.

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Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 11:26

symptoms will pop the while class bubble

I'm a bit confused by this? Our flowchart just says a confirmed case means the others need tested of isolated. Not just symptoms..

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Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 11:29

drive.google.com/file/d/1H2w_qBxTdDp_9Ej8JwhBPJPrOYTNHael/view

Guidance given here (England)

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Scbchl · 25/08/2020 11:32

Our school hasn't given any advice on testing. They just say if the child or ANYONE in the same household has a high temp, cough or loss of smell or taste they must all stay off school for ten days. Even if they all get a negative test, which the website says if everyone in family tests negative can return to work, so I'd assume school too. The school is going to be empty if every child has sibling with one of those symptoms has to isolate for ten days even if they test negative.

Scbchl · 25/08/2020 11:33

My friend who works at my childrens school has been told this morning her nursery child has to stay off with a cold. Even if they dont have one of the three main symptoms.

Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 11:34

Ok, maybe it varies based on the area you are in. Ours is the South West and been given the chart by the local PHE.

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Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 11:35

Ours has said if sneezing use a tissue and will be changing bins regularly. And tissues will be provided by the school. So presumably sniffles and sneezes are accommodated for at school.

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Useruseruserusee · 25/08/2020 11:35

I believe only the child with symptoms needs to isolate in England but this will still be disruptive.

DH and I are both teachers. We have two children and if either of them have a symptom one of us will have to stay at home to look after them as they are both under 7. That’s a class without a teacher.

Scbchl · 25/08/2020 11:36

My son is being tested at half three. It does say on NHS website that up to three other member of the fmsily can be tested I'd imagine thats incase they are positive but asymptomatic as theyd want to try and trace and test the people they were in contact with asap. Also, it's not up to a school to say whether only a child should be tested or not it's the nhs advice that should be followed surely.

Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 11:37

drive.google.com/file/d/1H2w_qBxTdDp_9Ej8JwhBPJPrOYTNHael/view

Not sure why link didn't work before. This is what we have been given. explains it quite clearly

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Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 11:40

Obvuosuly that is the guidance given to the local schools by the local area PHE to be shared with parents so they are aware...and all doing the same thing.

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Scbchl · 25/08/2020 11:42

I'm south west Scotland. Its the whole family who needs to isolate for either ten days if they have symptoms or 14 if it's a family or till they all test negative and have no symptoms. But school is saying its rent days off for all children in family regardless if they test negative. www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/what-your-test-result-means/

SleepingStandingUp · 25/08/2020 11:47

@Pixel7777

symptoms will pop the while class bubble

I'm a bit confused by this? Our flowchart just says a confirmed case means the others need tested of isolated. Not just symptoms..

Well you asked what other people had been told for their kids, so I answered.
Scbchl · 25/08/2020 11:50

Thats a far superior advice chart we havent been given anything relating to testing at all just been told all children must stay off ten days minimum if any of the three symptoms are displayed which is crap if it's only a cold.

Shitfuckoh · 25/08/2020 11:57

One of our schools are saying children to stay off with cold - I queried it, to be told that they can't have children going in to school with cough or sniffles as it'll cause panic!
Sniffles.... that's mine out from October to March then!

Beebityboo · 25/08/2020 12:14

Ffs this isn't sustainable at all. My youngest will never be in school.

Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 12:18

Here is the link to the article on Scotland www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/coronavirus-in-scotland-test-centres-swamped-by-pupils-with-sniffles-87fm07ww5

Under current guidance, parents are advised not to send their child to school if they appear to be suffering from “a regular cold”. Instead they are told: “You should all stay at home and get a test by contacting NHS Inform.”

One Edinburgh primary school had almost 50 absences yesterday, as parents heeded this official advice.

Linda Bauld, professor of public health at University of Edinburgh, said that parents accepted they should not send a child to school if they showed signs of being unwell, but it was important for the government to emphasise that the symptoms of Covid-19 were “not just a sniffle”.

She said: “You might want to keep your child off because they have a runny nose, that’s fine, but you don’t need to request a test unless they have a high temperature. If they do have a high temperature, then you should because that is one of the symptoms.”

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Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 12:19

Sounds a bit confusing.

On the popping the bubble thing, yes sounds a bit vague. Not very helpful is it if they give unclear advice, especially when people are worried.

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Flagsfiend · 25/08/2020 12:22

@Useruseruserusee

I believe only the child with symptoms needs to isolate in England but this will still be disruptive.

DH and I are both teachers. We have two children and if either of them have a symptom one of us will have to stay at home to look after them as they are both under 7. That’s a class without a teacher.

If your child has symptoms (cough, high temperature or loss of taste/smell) then you all need to isolate until they test negative (or 14 days if positive). Those aren't school rules, that is the rule for everyone regarding household symptoms.
Pixel7777 · 25/08/2020 12:25

Yes that is as the chart says. But should only take a day or two to get a negative result I suppose.

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ThatDamnScientist · 25/08/2020 12:50

@Useruseruserusee

I believe only the child with symptoms needs to isolate in England but this will still be disruptive.

DH and I are both teachers. We have two children and if either of them have a symptom one of us will have to stay at home to look after them as they are both under 7. That’s a class without a teacher.

I'm probably getting my wires crossed somewhere but isn't the NHS/government guidance if one person (child or otherwise) has onr of the three symptoms the whole family needs to isolate unless initial person gets a negative result. Has the guidance changed?
ThatDamnScientist · 25/08/2020 12:52

@Flagsfiend glad it want just me that picked up on that.

This is a concern if people are assuming school guidance over rules the government guidance.

Reastie · 25/08/2020 13:05

Hang on, if you have ANY of the 3 symptoms fever, new continuous cough OR loss of taste or smell you shouod be isolating/testing, so if you had a runny nose than presumably in many cases you’d have a loss of taste or smell so the right thing to do would be to test.

latticechaos · 25/08/2020 13:08

@Useruseruserusee

I believe only the child with symptoms needs to isolate in England but this will still be disruptive.

DH and I are both teachers. We have two children and if either of them have a symptom one of us will have to stay at home to look after them as they are both under 7. That’s a class without a teacher.

Trying not to freak out that a teacher doesn't know the while family must self isolate if one family member has symptoms Shock Grin

BOTH parents and all siblings at home until sick person tested and results back.

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