People not quarantining!

[PoppyRae]

Just a bit of a rant. My neighbours got back from France on Friday. The husband went back to work this morning. Their son is riding his bike outside as I’m typing this. My son’s friend knocked on our door to play this morning, he just got back from France with his family yesterday. Makes me so mad! We cancelled our holiday this year because we couldn’t afford to quarantine (DH is self employed) Are most people not following the rules or am I just surrounded by idiots?!

DD's start date for school (year 3) has been put back 5 days as her teacher is quarantining after her French holiday. I appreciate her teacher has to quarantine but would have preferred her to think ahead and not have gone to France in first place.

@ihearttc

DH is currently in the ME with work (not on holiday). He needed to go right at the start of lockdown but obviously couldn’t. Now things are back up and running so to speak he really had to go, without going he would have no work and without no work we’d have no income.

He had a test before he went and had to prove it was negative before he got on the plane. He had another test on entry to the country and has then had another test 72 hours before his flight home tomorrow. He will then have another test here (at our expense) later this week. Yet he will still need to isolate. The last time I checked the country he went to only had 350 deaths, yet he will need to isolate coming back to the U.K. which in my opinion is crazy. He will need to go back again in a few weeks so we will need to do the whole process again (his job requires lots of international travel).

Now, now, this is MN, you're not allowed to have a job that requires international travel. First it was the environment, but no one seems to give a shit now covid's on the scene. No one needs to travel abroad to work, ever. Tesco is hiring. He can 'just' get a job there because he's killing grannies by travelling .

@InDeoEstMeaFiducia

It’s actually quite ironic the industry he works in as well!! Unfortunately mega rich Arabs with private jets don’t like zoom calls so he has to see them in person!

I actually didn’t know about the pilot scheme. That’s what they did in DXB when he landed but didn’t realise they did it here too!

It was inevitable that people were going to ignore quarantine when nothing was put in place to ensure people got paid if they take time off when they’re not sick.

If the government wants to stop people earning a living or restrict their normality then it should pay for it.

@NailsNeedDoing

It was inevitable that people were going to ignore quarantine when nothing was put in place to ensure people got paid if they take time off when they’re not sick.

If the government wants to stop people earning a living or restrict their normality then it should pay for it.

That was never going to happen because none of those in power has a clue how 99.9% of people in the UK live. They go off to quarantine at some huge country pile and haven't had to worry about money for generations.

Hong Kong has cycled in and out of strict control measures AFAIK that are damaging the economy there. Strict quarantine of new arrivals has not been their silver bullet to keeping things 'normal'.

It has been a huge success for Taiwan, who have had no lockdown at all, and barely any cases. Life has indeed been normal in Taiwan the whole time, and economically they’ve held up extremely well.

Cant speak to Hong Kong, as I have no direct experience there. But why pick the case that you think disproves that it works, and ignore the case that proves that can work Incredibly well?

the government wants to stop people earning a living or restrict their normality then it should pay for it.

This is nonsense. Utter nonsense.

The government didn’t force anyone to go on holiday in the middle of pandemic did they?

You make decisions in life and then accept the consequences.

Unless you’re An entitled middle England twat, in which case you do whatever the hell you want and expect someone else to suffer the consequences.

Typical bullshit attitude of the wankers in this cuntry. It’s a constant embarassment to have been born in England.

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PJ6M:
why write "Consequently their economy and education sectors are open." about Hong Kong, when it's a gross misrepresentation of what's happened there?

The pilot programme still means 7 days isolation which is better but still an issue for most people

I think that's the aim (I've seen anything between 5-10 days being suggested but as I understand ATM the pilot program running at LHR still involves 14 days quarantine.

South Korea closes schools & imposes emergency mask mandates. Sadly another minority church (who think the virus-crisis is a conspiracy) are involved in latest big outbreak. :(

SK has pretty strict rules on international arrivals must quarantine. Tough quarantine rules may not affect what natives do.

We are quarantining after France - totally expected it and, for us as a family we took the decision to travel on that basis - it was worth it for us (and completely understand why others would choose to cancel - I think all of these things are very personal)

We were super careful in France BUT I would say the social distancing over there wasn't great (different in different regions to be honest but the west coast was not great). Also there were big, local council arranged outside music gatherings in the evenings and mask wearing was erratic. I love France, speak fluent French and have spent every summer there since I was really small - I wasn't surprised that people were so relaxed in our region (Normandy was more disciplined I would say) as it was barely touched in the spring, so I just don't think people are very worried about the virus.

We were really, really careful. but I am happy to quarantine as I think there is risk with travel itself and I do think the approaches are different in different countries.