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Do you think we will ever see a full nationwide lockdown again?

49 replies

Hmmmmminteresting · 23/08/2020 13:49

Im curious as I know so many people who's jobs are holding on by a thread, that if as a nation it happened again (as in back to you can only leave your house once a day etc) it would defiantly end badly for many people.

In my opinion it won't happen again. Even placed like Oldham dont exactly appear to be taking their lock lockdown seriously, I think that by telling family members they can't mix households but then they know they could go and have a pint in the pub and be sat a table away, the human brain just doesn't resignate!

We seem to be a country of all or nothing.

When we were in the height of lockdown I was going food shopping fortnightly, disinfecting everything in the garage before entering my house etc.

Now my 2 dc are back in nursery in bubbles of more than 10, im back at work sat less than 2m away from about 3 people for 8 hours, and will be the first to admit that lockdown life just feels like a distant memory!

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Pixel7777 · 23/08/2020 13:52

No, I don't think so. It is not affordable. The most which may happen would be something like everyone being asked not to meet so many people perhaps, but no closing things down again.

It would be localised as is happening now in the main

MarshaBradyo · 23/08/2020 13:53

I hope not as I’m more concerned about the economic juggernaut atm than the cv rate which is very low (yes it can change).

But imo it will be local lockdowns, with low funding.

This means emphasis on socialisation restrictions rather than businesses closing.

Pixel7777 · 23/08/2020 13:53

France, and Italy are also saying no to another lockdown

Ellsbells12 · 23/08/2020 13:59

Nope will be nothing left and I don't think people will comply ... mental health /people losing houses etc

secretllama · 23/08/2020 14:01

Many people won't do it, myself included. I won't go back to not seeing my parents and sister/niece again. Most people I speak to about this agree with me.

Redolent · 23/08/2020 14:03

From a couple of weeks ago:

"The government is understood to be examining plans for a "more sophisticated model" for shielding to avoid mass lockdown if Covid-19 returns over the next few months.

One Cabinet minister described the plan as a "stiletto not a sledgehammer" approach to tackling outbreaks, with people who are especially vulnerable told to remain indoors.

The plans are understood to have been wargamed in Whitehall as part of civil servants' preparation. The minister said: "There will be more micro-stuff - that is a clear direction of travel.

Officials are looking at how NHS data can be used to target vulnerable groups, such as those who are obese and over-50, if there is a second spike so they can be contacted and told to stay indoors, The Sunday Telegraph can disclose."

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 23/08/2020 14:09

I think a lot of the people who are 'told' to stay indoors will ignore it. DH is 65 and has already said he wouldn't stay in. My BMI is over 30 so classed as obese, I would also rather take my chances than stay indoors indefinitely (or until my BMI comes down).

user1493413286 · 23/08/2020 14:10

No I don’t think our economy or peoples mental health could take it.

Redolent · 23/08/2020 14:10

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

I think a lot of the people who are 'told' to stay indoors will ignore it. DH is 65 and has already said he wouldn't stay in. My BMI is over 30 so classed as obese, I would also rather take my chances than stay indoors indefinitely (or until my BMI comes down).
Just curious - would you or DH behave differently if there were reports of no hospital beds available in your area, or people not being admitted?
Pixel7777 · 23/08/2020 14:13

Didn't Boris say it was like a "nuclear deterrant" or something, recently...

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 23/08/2020 14:15

Possibly but we will both assess the risk depending on the situation rather than being told we have to do something.

I don't how it would work in our situation though. Let's say I lose weight (I'm only just over 30 BMI) and therefore don't have to stay in and I'm going out to work, shops etc. DH isn't supposed to go out but surely he's then at risk from me.

Ellsbells12 · 23/08/2020 14:17

@secretllama

Many people won't do it, myself included. I won't go back to not seeing my parents and sister/niece again. Most people I speak to about this agree with me.
I won't do it either I am not staying away from my parents they can bugger off
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 23/08/2020 14:22

Same here @Ellsbells12. If my uncle is happy to see me then I'll see him.

frozendaisy · 23/08/2020 14:32

If infections get out of control people will do the bare minimum they need to and nothing more so in effect locking themselves down.

Plus if you catch Covid-19 and have a moderate illness you will be locked down.

It's in everyone's interest to keep the R-rate low.

PigletJohn · 23/08/2020 14:35

If we get another pandemic that kills thousands of people and has no treatment and no cure, then we will probably have another lockdown.

It's better than having terrified people barricading their streets or looting supermarkets.

Public services, utilities and banks have kept us feeling normal.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 23/08/2020 15:01

No. The economy is fucked and people are pissed off. There will be local restrictions, advise for people who are especially vulnerable to stay inside (which people will be able to ignore, as it can't be policed) and the pantomime theatre that is mask wearing will be kept as a visible token effort. The news cycle will move on (possibly with government encouragement) and the world will slowly reset to normal.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 23/08/2020 15:08

No, I'll be very very surprised if it happens again.

Popcornriver · 23/08/2020 15:09

I don't think we will unless hospitals become very overwhelmed. I know lots believe this didn't happen during lockdown but how many were being denied treatment because their symptoms weren't seen as severe enough by the 111 service? I remember seeing posts on here from users reporting issues and on other social media sites.

OddBoots · 23/08/2020 15:14

I can see there needing to be something significant for a few weeks early January after people have been more social over Christmas and New Year. What that will look like though I don't know.

ChavvySexPond · 23/08/2020 15:26

My parents are Shielding but it's paused so they're able to go out for walks etc at the moment and are so much happier.

And honestly, for the life of me I can't see why they couldn't have been allowed out for walks all along.

I think they will avoid being indoors with other people except when they have to for doctors, hospital, dentist, chiropodist, hairdressers, eye tests etc, but I see no reason why they can't keep going for walks even when Shielding is unpaused.

Spikeyball · 23/08/2020 15:41

No, lockdown in certain areas possibly but it is unlikely to be necessary everywhere at the same time. If people do not accept there is a problem in their own area they won't cooperate.

Morfin · 23/08/2020 15:46

It's a possibility, likely no, but people can not rule it out. People said there was no money left after the last recession but the govt has found some. Plus an uncontrolled virus spreading throughout the country would cost more than lockdown. Whilst people are saying they would ignore it, IF another wave is more dangerous and starts affecting younger people (as the Spanish flu did-an I know it's not a flu) and hospitals and Nightingales were full then people will be calling for it like they did in March. It's easy to say we wouldn't follow another lockdown when many areas of the country have not seen many covid deaths.

itchyfinger · 23/08/2020 15:51

No, it would ruin the economy and people will be left destitute. I have said there is absolutely no way I'm not seeing my family or keeping my kids at home while I try and work if my family are willing to help me with childcare. I simply wont do it. The risk is low, the pubs are open and people aren't dropping dead because of it.

wheresmymojo · 23/08/2020 15:52

No, I don't think there will be.

However, I keep a beady eye on the stats and should things get riskier I will go into basically a form of voluntary lockdown and think of it as hibernating for the winter!

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 23/08/2020 15:56

People said there was no money left after the last recession but the govt has found some.

They've borrowed it. They might not be able to borrow more, and we have to be able to repay it somehow.