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If You Could Choose Any Education Option for Sept

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IDSNeighbour · 14/08/2020 22:54

I'm getting so confused by what parents actually want to happen with schools right now (I'm not a parent, I'm a teacher). I want to know what home opinions my classes are going to be coming in from in Sept - whether they're likely to be nervous or confident, whether they will want to SD or not, etc.

I know parents aren't one hive mind but the 'loudest voice' seems to keep changing its mind. Or I hear different ones, idk.

I'm sure there used to be a board for polls and surveys but, if I wasn't imagining, I can't find it.

So, if you're up for an unscientific straw poll to help me gauge general feeling, can you post A, B, C, D or E in the thread (you can explain if you like, I don't mind!)
A - I want full time schooling as close to the old normal as is allowed
B - I want full time schooling but with safety measures such as social distancing and masks for all who can and are old enough.
C - I want blended learning (half in the classroom and half online)
D - I want to keep my child at home all the time, home school them and not be penalised (ie, I want my place back when I think it's safe)
E - I think schools should remain closed for most children for now.

OP posts:
monkeytennis97 · 15/08/2020 21:13

@noblegiraffe

Imagine a world where sane educated intelligent people actually put children first...

If you want to put the children first, you want schools open and to remain open.

Hence the requirements for mitigation measures.

Sane, educated intelligent people get this.

Spot on.
ineedaholidaynow · 15/08/2020 21:15

I certainly didn’t vote Brexit and I am not a teacher but I want schools to open in a way that keeps everyone in them as safe as possible and to stay open as long as possible but have a back up plan that ensures all pupils have access to education if there are lockdowns, bubbles burst, they have health vulnerabilities etc

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 21:17

@noblegiraffe

Imagine a world where sane educated intelligent people actually put children first...

If you want to put the children first, you want schools open and to remain open.

Hence the requirements for mitigation measures.

Sane, educated intelligent people get this.

Are you suggesting everyone on this thread who voted A is neither sane nor educated?

What a narrow view you have

noblegiraffe · 15/08/2020 21:19

Are you suggesting everyone on this thread who voted A is neither sane nor educated?

I think quite a few of them are scientifically illiterate pandemic deniers sent over from Facebook to try to rig a Mumsnet thread poll.

And I think they’re pathetic for doing so.

sunseekin · 15/08/2020 21:19

@monkeytennis97 @askmehowiknow I agree with monkey in the A versus not A comparison.

Mutually exclusive and add up to the whole data set. Makes sense to me, I’m a definite not A voter! But think there should be some B, C and D!

I am an 11-18 Maths teacher 🤓 I’m quite good too 🏅

Iamnotthe1 · 15/08/2020 21:20

@askmehowiknow

No, she's reversing your argument where you intimated that everyone who doesn't want schools open with no adjustments or protective measures is not sane, educated nor intelligent. I'm glad that you recognise that doing that would be narrow minded.

sunseekin · 15/08/2020 21:21

But the poll is very flawed and unsafe stats. Not Boris unsafe obvs, he’d be all over these results 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 21:22

You come across in your posts as very head girl. Someone who's never left school/doesn't understand the real world.

Apologies if that's not the case

I was very good at maths as in top in A level maths papers. But I could see a life outside maths Smile

beckymum · 15/08/2020 21:22

A, definitely. Parent of y1, 3, 5, 6 and 8.

FairfaxHigh · 15/08/2020 21:22

2 x primary age DC. Somewhere between A and B ie would ideally want as near to normal as possible but accept there will need to be some adaptations/restrictions.

noblegiraffe · 15/08/2020 21:24

You come across in your posts as very head girl. Someone who's never left school/doesn't understand the real world.

We know Us4Them tried to rig the poll.

Scientifically illiterate pandemic deniers.

Why are they trying to sway Mumsnet opinion?

sunseekin · 15/08/2020 21:24

Life outside of Maths? I’m just playing with 3D shapes but I’ll have a little think about that 🤯🤯🤯😱

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 21:26

@noblegiraffe

You come across in your posts as very head girl. Someone who's never left school/doesn't understand the real world.

We know Us4Them tried to rig the poll.

Scientifically illiterate pandemic deniers.

Why are they trying to sway Mumsnet opinion?

Have you always been a maths teacher?
Sailingblue · 15/08/2020 21:27

For me it would be A-B for primary and B-C for secondary. I believe children have to get back to as close as normal as soon as possible. For primary, I’m very happy to send mine back and think it’s critical. I’m slightly more wary about secondary because of transport and size of the schools. Hedging bets with blended learning over the winter feels like it could have been a better compromise as the return is managed. Whatever happens though I strongly believe all children and young people need proper access to a teacher, even if that has to be part/time.

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 21:30

@sunseekin

Life outside of Maths? I’m just playing with 3D shapes but I’ll have a little think about that 🤯🤯🤯😱
I know I know Grin it was tough for me to turn my back in it. And actually with better careers advice I possibly wouldn't have done. But hey!
lljkk · 15/08/2020 21:31

I loathe conspiracy theories. I hate being forced to choose between elderly parents & my kids; fwiw, I choose the kids.

OP didn't ask "what do you think will happen" or "what is the worst case scenario you find acceptable". Instead she asked What do you WANT.

I accept that from A we may slip to E or F or more likely G = no education and training at all = exactly what 3 of my DC got when they were supposed to be in training/education for last 6 months -- but I still want to strive for A. Society has decided that only the 'vulnerable' who are terrified of covid have opinions that matter nowadays. I accept that these priorities I don't share will continue to dominate because the loudest voices want things that I don't want, but since OP asked , then I respond that I want things to be different.

Iamnotthe1 · 15/08/2020 21:32

@askmehowiknow
Have you always been a maths teacher?

How is that relevant?
Your own perspectives on this are formed purely from your own experiences and the information that you have exposed yourself to. Whether someone had worked within schools for the entirety of their working life does not make their viewpoint any less valid.

However, for what it's worth, I worked in the 'real world' for years before making significant sacrifices in order to go into teaching so that I felt I was doing something worthwhile. My perspective aligns with @noblegiraffe. Do you consider that more valid?

noblegiraffe · 15/08/2020 21:32

Have you always been a maths teacher?

So why did a lobbying group send out a klaxon on Facebook to get people to come over here to vote A on this poll?

Are they worried that parents supporting mitigation measures would screw their plans to test whether the pandemic really is a hoax?

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 21:35

@noblegiraffe

Have you always been a maths teacher?

So why did a lobbying group send out a klaxon on Facebook to get people to come over here to vote A on this poll?

Are they worried that parents supporting mitigation measures would screw their plans to test whether the pandemic really is a hoax?

Is that even true though? Evidence?

Have you had a career outside of teaching to understand the real world @noblegiraffe ?

Heathershimmer95 · 15/08/2020 21:35

@noblegiraffe I do too. It was obvious at the point a raft of As with brand new ids flew in within mins of each other.

I respect anyone who says A but such behaviour skews true debate.

As will the grief they’ll give us now when they double down.

Iamnotthe1 · 15/08/2020 21:36

@lljkk
exactly what 3 of my DC got when they were supposed to be in training/education for last 6 months

Unfortunately, the Government chose to suspend the curriculum when they changed the remit of schools. This meant that there was no legal requirement for schools to be educating their pupils/students during that time. Whilst many did, it was inconsistent. If further closures are required, the expectations have changed and the curriculum won't be suspended. Remote learning will look more regulated if it occurs again.

Heathershimmer95 · 15/08/2020 21:37

(I in no way think all As came this way but it was obvious a run of them did)

sunseekin · 15/08/2020 21:37

@noblegiraffe

Have you always been a maths teacher?

So why did a lobbying group send out a klaxon on Facebook to get people to come over here to vote A on this poll?

Are they worried that parents supporting mitigation measures would screw their plans to test whether the pandemic really is a hoax?

Did they really??? Hilarious. I guess that shows they have no understanding of stats and unsafe sciences and surveys..... funny that 🤔🤔🤔
Hercwasonaroll · 15/08/2020 21:37

Have you had a career outside of teaching to understand the real world @noblegiraffe?

Yes us teachers exist in a completely parallel universe. We never leave the house for anything but teaching.

MrsHamlet · 15/08/2020 21:39

B. I exclusively teach large groups of 15-18 year olds and, quite frankly, if we need a mask in a museum, we need one one in my cramped and poorly ventilated classroom.
To allow that, C in lower school where needed to enable exam classes to be in as close to full time as possible.

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