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If You Could Choose Any Education Option for Sept

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IDSNeighbour · 14/08/2020 22:54

I'm getting so confused by what parents actually want to happen with schools right now (I'm not a parent, I'm a teacher). I want to know what home opinions my classes are going to be coming in from in Sept - whether they're likely to be nervous or confident, whether they will want to SD or not, etc.

I know parents aren't one hive mind but the 'loudest voice' seems to keep changing its mind. Or I hear different ones, idk.

I'm sure there used to be a board for polls and surveys but, if I wasn't imagining, I can't find it.

So, if you're up for an unscientific straw poll to help me gauge general feeling, can you post A, B, C, D or E in the thread (you can explain if you like, I don't mind!)
A - I want full time schooling as close to the old normal as is allowed
B - I want full time schooling but with safety measures such as social distancing and masks for all who can and are old enough.
C - I want blended learning (half in the classroom and half online)
D - I want to keep my child at home all the time, home school them and not be penalised (ie, I want my place back when I think it's safe)
E - I think schools should remain closed for most children for now.

OP posts:

LaurieMarlow · 15/08/2020 15:41

This is due to their/our contract (in state schools) and refers to any long term illness.

Which is awfully generous compared to the statutory sick pay most of the private sector would be looking at

MarshaBradyo · 15/08/2020 15:41

@FrippEnos

MarshaBradyo

Most teachers I know are happy with what their schools are providing.
Some schools (whispers) are even allowing masks (sshh, its a secret)

Others have also included other things not in the OP's list.

What they are not happy with is the lack of sensible guidance from the government.

Such as 'schools will not close again' leading to a complete lack of a plan. Can you imagine what that would be like?

Luckily enough you don't have to because we have already seen it.

All I think is good on any school doing this. As long as all students get equal access to education, ft.

DamsonDragon · 15/08/2020 15:42

@IDSNeighbour quick warning if it hasn't been mentioned, this thread has been shared on UsForThem England, who have been very vocal that everyone spam it with A as the only accable outcome, so i would interpret the results with caution as they are a very selective group of parents (3.3k members but only representative of a very small amount of parents in the bigger scheme of things, and not all on the page are parents/have school age children) who happen to be incredibly vocal in comparison to other groups in society.

FrippEnos · 15/08/2020 15:42

notevenat20
Ah we are supposed to work in the holidays?!

YES if there is a national crisis and the reason you didn't do anything in term time was because you hadn't had time to prepare.

Interest isn't it.

We have people rushing back from holidays so they don't have to quarantine, and getting sympathy from so many people for the money that they have lost.

But teachers should give up their holidays. They/we won't get paid for it. But they/we should just do it.

Nope not going to happen.

ineedaholidaynow · 15/08/2020 15:43

@LaurieMarlow I'm assuming that sort of sick pay is quite standard across the public sector

FrippEnos · 15/08/2020 15:44

LaurieMarlow

Which is awfully generous compared to the statutory sick pay most of the private sector would be looking at

Well you could always become a teacher.
Got a 1st?
The government will pay you £20,000 to train (depending on the subject) and you don't even need to get a job at the end of it.
Or go through teach first they will also ensure that you get paid to train.

Ickabog · 15/08/2020 15:45

[quote DamsonDragon]@IDSNeighbour quick warning if it hasn't been mentioned, this thread has been shared on UsForThem England, who have been very vocal that everyone spam it with A as the only accable outcome, so i would interpret the results with caution as they are a very selective group of parents (3.3k members but only representative of a very small amount of parents in the bigger scheme of things, and not all on the page are parents/have school age children) who happen to be incredibly vocal in comparison to other groups in society.[/quote]
Quoting so others on the thread don't miss this update.

I'm not surprised it's been shared, but it's disappointing as it was interesting seeing the genuine replies.

Jeremyironsnothing · 15/08/2020 15:45

C is likely to be more sustainable for secondary pupils. B for primary.

A would be best but that is likely to lead to schools closing.

planningaheadtoday · 15/08/2020 15:48

C with D if needed for secondary school.

SimonJT · 15/08/2020 15:48

C for my son.

It is however a different scenario for us due to him being adopted, he simply won’t cope going to school on a fulltime basis in September. If he coped well with school I would like a mix of A/B to get pupils back but also to keep staff safe, if it was a shop, gym etc it wouldn’t be considered covid secure, so that should be the case for schools.

GabriellaMontez · 15/08/2020 15:49

noblegiraffe · 15/08/2020 15:49

A pre-question to the school one should have been:

Do you think this pandemic is a hoax?

That would have flushed out the lobbyists voting A because they want schools to go back as normal to ‘prove’ their conspiracy theory.

Anyone else voting A must have some realisation that A leads to E for at least some schools some of the time.

FrippEnos · 15/08/2020 15:50

MarshaBradyo

What schools and teachers want isn't difficult.
We are not asking for twice as many teachers or classrooms to be built.

Hell, we are not even asking for 2mtrs between pupils and staff, never mind pupils.

We are asking for lidded bins so that those that sneeze can put them in the bin.
We are asking for hand sanitizer do that hands can be wiped before and after lessons.
Anti bacc wipes to wipe down tables and keyboards.

For 1-2-1 TAs/LMs to be able to have masks because they are sat next to and leaning in to pupils that need help.
You know easy stuff.

And lets not even go anywhere near pupils that don't turn up with the correct equipment.

borntobequiet · 15/08/2020 15:51

Not RTFT but latest update from OP seems to be:
Anything including A = 76
Anything not including A = 89

Looks a bit different seen like that.

FrippEnos · 15/08/2020 15:52

Its also interesting that as a lobby group they have set their setting to private.

So not as transparent as they could be.

MarshaBradyo · 15/08/2020 15:52

@FrippEnos

MarshaBradyo

What schools and teachers want isn't difficult.
We are not asking for twice as many teachers or classrooms to be built.

Hell, we are not even asking for 2mtrs between pupils and staff, never mind pupils.

And lets not even go anywhere near pupils that don't turn up with the correct equipment.

Fripp I want this too! And would like others to want it and write to their MP as I did. Beyond that it’s very frustrating as we can influence it.

Actually I wasn’t that specific as I don’t know the set up but asked for extra funding for cleaning and PPE.

MarshaBradyo · 15/08/2020 15:53

Can’t

ineedaholidaynow · 15/08/2020 15:53

I still don't think people who voted A have answered the question what do they think will happen if a large number of staff go off sick or have to self isolate?

WhenDoISleep · 15/08/2020 15:54

justdontatme · 15/08/2020 15:57

And I’m not from UsForThem!

FrippEnos · 15/08/2020 15:59

MarshaBradyo

I want this too! And would like others to want it and write to their MP as I did

I also believe that the vast majority of parents want this.
And it is so annoying that so many have fallen for the governments spin of lazy teachers, obstructive unions.

We should be standing shoulder to shoulder on this.

LaurieMarlow · 15/08/2020 16:02

Fripp that list is great. I don’t understand why any parent wouldn’t support it.

If there was this kind of clarity about what teachers are looking for I think parental support would be easier to achieve.

Quietlyloud · 15/08/2020 16:03

monkeytennis97 · 15/08/2020 16:05

@FrippEnos

MarshaBradyo

I want this too! And would like others to want it and write to their MP as I did

I also believe that the vast majority of parents want this.
And it is so annoying that so many have fallen for the governments spin of lazy teachers, obstructive unions.

We should be standing shoulder to shoulder on this.

Absolutely

Takingabreakagain · 15/08/2020 16:08

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