Thread to state that you will not be playing a part in the experiment of secondary schools reopening as normal with no masks, no social distancing, no additional cleaning and no additional transport

[TheKarenWhoKnocks]

The arguments have all been hashed out many times on other threads. This thread is for parents to state that they won't be participating in this and will not be sending their young people back to secondary school as things stand. Not deregistering, just not attending. Phoning in sick, phoning in as self isolating etc but not sending them in.

I state that I am not going to send my children to secondary school under current proposals.

Anyway, for those who are going to do this, here's my plan: YP 1 gets symptoms on the first day of term, oh no, we must all isolate. YP2 ditto, two weeks in. Then me, two weeks after that. Takes us to mid October, then review the situation. For fewer kids, just bung in a couple of tummy bugs etc. Anything to spin it out. Takes ages for a place to be withdrawn, much much longer than six weeks.

Very clever. Your kids miss out on 6 weeks of education and you achieve nothing. When they go back, they'll be behind. Are you expecting the teacher to set work just for them? Get them caught up when they return?

I’m glad the discussion is now starting. Shouting someone down is not great. Please be kind to each other.

@DerbyshireGirly 😁

Thanks @sunseekin. De pfeffel & co hate teaching unions, all that lot do. Generally because they're composed of educated articulate well paid people who mobilise - imagine?!

@EvilTwins

OP you sound like a child. If you don’t want your DC to go back, keep them at home but why the silly games?

This,

Make your own decision and be honest about it. Don't play games and don't expect school to send home work or make exceptions for your child.

As for making a statement. Why? No idea what you will do with anonymous statements from an Internet forum.

@Cantspeakpublic

I’m glad the discussion is now starting. Shouting someone down is not great. Please be kind to each other.

Just starting?

Where have you been, this subject has been discussed incessantly for the past 4 months

Oops pressed post!
Anyway, I have name changed as I work for the LA. I have regular meetings with schools and head teachers and so I do feel I can comment on here.
They may tell you what you want to hear but behind the scenes there is panic and anxiety.
I sometimes wish I didn’t work in this department as it makes it harder for me as a mum as I understand much more about things.
It won’t be plain sailing and I’m afraid the whole education debate has been made a political pawn.
Anyway, let’s just get back onto the thread instead of debating the rights and wrongs.
Wishing everyone the best whatever you decide to do :)

@Cantspeakpublic those of us who have tried to dissent on the 56378 schools thread saying this EXACT thing have been shouted down and told we just want childcare (I don’t need childcare)

Sorry I meant starting on this thread for the op. It was back and forth to start not on the actual subject thread for her

If you're keeping your kids off school, do it properly. Please don't add to the workload of teachers, social workers etc by not being honest about why your child is not in school.

We'll have enough shit to deal with, without fuckers like you expecting work sent home and using absence management resources. Deregister by all means. But don't fuck us over by keeping them off under false pretences.

Sorry fruity I don’t follow?

@Cantspeakpublic I'm sorry you're in that position and sorry that education professionals are feeling " panic and anxiety". This should not be happening. I personally am not going to participate in it. Thanks for the support and I wish you well.

I can imagine, spoke to old colleagues last night. Teachers are putting on a brave face but they’re scared for themselves, their families, their students and their families.

We should not be gambling at this point in the pandemic. We should be looking for sustainability and support for those that need it most and then build things up.

Boris makes a mistake, says their learning and makes a half arsed apology whilst pointing the finger elsewhere from what I’ve seen.

That’s simply not good enough. When the stakes are high, you employ caution. He feels like a gambling man who has lost big but still believes he can win it all back if he goes for one more bold, reckless policy.

They’re!

No problems Op. I just don’t think people should be speaking to you this way. You have one opinion and other have another one. That’s fine we are all different.
All the best too!

[quote TheKarenWhoKnocks]@Cantspeakpublic I'm sorry you're in that position and sorry that education professionals are feeling " panic and anxiety". This should not be happening. I personally am not going to participate in it. Thanks for the support and I wish you well.[/quote]
Except people being dishonest and deceitful (like you suggest you will be) will just be adding to the chaos for educational professionals....

Here is my statement:
The weather has been too hot today and I’m afraid I wasted my time washing all the bedding as it’ll all be sweaty and yuck again by morning.

And I don’t think deregistering is the solution most caring teachers are after - they care about their students, completely understand the multitude of genuine reasons (and don’t suddenly want to lose a load of funding - neither do the parents of the children whose children who will be attending I imagine)

I personally am not going to participate in it.

You are though. You're making the schools job harder by BSing about why your kids are off. You'll waste their time contacting you to deal with the absence. Staff may be expected to set work for your children on top of their daily class teaching. This will take time and over a long period is difficult for the teachers to know where your children are at.

@Gogogadgetarms

Here is my statement: The weather has been too hot today and I’m afraid I wasted my time washing all the bedding as it’ll all be sweaty and yuck again by morning.

Time spent washing bedtime is always worth it for those clean sheets no matter how short lived.

@Gogogadgetarms

Here is my statement: The weather has been too hot today and I’m afraid I wasted my time washing all the bedding as it’ll all be sweaty and yuck again by morning.

On a positive note the weather will be equally hot tomorrow so you can just wash the sheets again and they'll probably dry in time for bed

Yes many are scared but what I have seen via work capacity and then versus messages as a parent is a very different story.
Lots of other reasons too (many schools are financially struggling so can’t afford to clean or employ cover teachers or more toilets, decisions being made due to fianance and not the best interests of the children etc)
Don’t want to de rail lol or start my own thread!

@MoreW1ne Ok so how can we do this legitimately then? I have no intention of deregistering but government policy is that they either go in or get marked as unauthorised. Any tips to avoid this? Ideally I would like to say that I'm not sending them in as I don't want to participate in an activity that will negatively impact on public health as I feel the proposed set up is risky in that regard. But there doesn't seem to be a legitimate way of stating this. Any tips?

Wouldn't children who are kept off school for 6 weeks with varying reasons like isolating and tummy bugs and any other reason you could think of, not normally trigger some sort of safeguarding or LA intervention re absence? I can't see these policies changing just because of Covid you are just giving them extra unnecessary work because you want to play silly buggers and not do things the correct way.
What are you thinking will happen in October that will be any different in September? Are you going to continue the isolation games after half term too?

Yes they will trigger a safeguarding referral where I work.

There are no ways to do what you describe. (rightfully so, someone needs to take responsibility for the education. If you want to take over then deregister).