Daily numbers, graphs, analysis thread 14

[BigChocFrenzy]

Welcome to thread 14 of the daily updates

Resource links:

Uk dashboard deaths, cases, hospitals, tests - 4 nations, LAs, English regions
Slides & data UK govt pressers
[[https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi
rus-covid-19-information-for-the-public UK stats]] list of reports added daily by PHE & DHSC
PHE Surveillance report infections & deaths released every Thursday with sep. infographic
ONS England infection surveillance report ONS UK statistics for CV related deaths, released weekly each Tuesday
Daily ECDC report UK & EEA
Worldometer UK page
Plot FT graphs compare countries deaths, cases, raw / million pop
Covidly.com world summary & graphs
Plot COVID Graphs Our World in Data additional data

We welcome factual, data driven, and civil discussions from all contributors 📈 📉 📊 👍

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@Redolent

Why is our death rate still comparatively high in relation to other European countries?

France had 1000 cases too weeks ago compared to 700ish for the UK. But they reported only 11 deaths today compared to almost 100 for us.

My only supposition is that obesity rates factor into things.

Because our total still includes the nonsense PHE numbers.

Deaths reported in hospitals today were 10, 4 of which happened in June.

According to PHE/ONS data looking at death certs, hospital deaths are now more than 60% of covid deaths, but because we still include the PHE number of "deaths of people who had some point have had a positive test", regardless of what they die of, the headline number is much larger.

In reality, daily deaths with Covid on death cert/of Covid are likely to be around 20 a day.

Does anyone have the link to the numbers in different age groups for the UK COVID deaths ?
Preferably a simple table

That's UK total, not just England

@BigChocFrenzy

Does anyone have the link to the numbers in different age groups for the UK COVID deaths ? Preferably a simple table

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/latest#deaths-registered-by-age-group

Figure 3 is England and Wales...

Thanks, Patricia Looks like only the ONS do this atm

Since the RKI can produce a simple age / sex table every day for German total deaths over 16 states, I don't know why the UK can't for 4 deaths over nations
Even 3 separate tables from the 3 sources

Also, I wish the ONS would't have such wide age groups e.g. 15-44

When we want to reassure parents, it's neither helpful nor convincing that the data is so difficult to dig out for 0-18

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

This is England, most up to date I think, but the dashboard doesn't have it for any of the other countries, so you can't even work it out. Does seem ridiculous.

Scottish data can be worked out from here.

public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

That's strange as going on that chart is shows no infants dying in the UK and yet one was reported in June?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-53097646

@PrayingandHoping - it's just a very small number, click on data and you'll see it's 9 under-4s, 2 age 5-9, 10 age 10-14 etc.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

there's also a UK tab in this dataset; however age range is limited under 1; 1 to 14; then 15-44; 45-64; 65-74; 75-84; 85 and over; also registration week as opposed to occurrence week

[quote PrayingandHoping]That's strange as going on that chart is shows no infants dying in the UK and yet one was reported in June?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-53097646[/quote]
which chart? the fig 3?

if you hover over it, it shows 2 males under 1 as having died. It's such a small number it doesn't show up as a bar.

@MRex oh I tried clicking but nothing happened but on a phone so may just be not sensitive enough with my thumbs! Lol

@BigChocFrenzy

Thanks, Patricia Looks like only the ONS do this atm

Since the RKI can produce a simple age / sex table every day for German total deaths over 16 states, I don't know why the UK can't for 4 deaths over nations
Even 3 separate tables from the 3 sources

I don't know why the UK can't for 4 deaths over nations

the politics of devolution unfortunately; quite bizarre is what is, in terms of control of spending, just about the most centralised democracy on the planet!

@PatriciaHolm yes figure 3, I screen shot it. I think it's because I'm on my phone so although I did try tapping on it for more data none showed.

[quote PrayingandHoping]@PatriciaHolm yes figure 3, I screen shot it. I think it's because I'm on my phone so although I did try tapping on it for more data none showed. [/quote]
ah yes, I can't imagine it working well on a phone!

infuriatingly the data behind this table in the weekly surveillance report is not provided in the supporting data file.

So children were not getting tested in any number - and as more get tested more positives are found. That means that hotspots need to be encouraging the testing of children, even if not showing symptoms, since we dont really know how much they transmit infection.

The actual positivity rate for infection in age 5-14 has slowly gone down, to 1.4% now (weekly, overall being 1.6%), as have all ages except the oldest - 75-84 has popped up again, and 85+ climbed for a few weeks from a low before going down again a little in the last week.

Thanks for the links, Patricia 🍸

COVID Deaths in England for kids age 0-19 = 33

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

From population of age 0-19 = 12.6 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographyoff_England#Age

Yes, UK gov only gives age group deaths for England, not for the other 3 nations 🤯

Residents of East Northamptonshire towns told to socially distance etc, and multi team tournaments stopped :

www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/health/coronavirus/local-lockdown-risk-corby-kettering-and-wellingborough-if-residents-do-not-follow-extra-rules-officials-warn-2936432

[quote PrayingandHoping]That's strange as going on that chart is shows no infants dying in the UK and yet one was reported in June?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-53097646[/quote]
Pure speculation - but I did notice at times there were many media reports of people dying of Covid. Yet reading on it turned out they had t had a negative test or they were very ill.

I don't always think the reports were accurate and pro as my not accurate enough to match true data recording.

But there were a few deaths of infants. Just doesn't show up on graph.

The excellent graph showing age is really interesting.

Totally agree they shouldn't link such a huge age range into 1.

But 85+ has decreased and so did the next range (74+?)

The next 2 age ranges seems to have stayed fairly stable the whole way through but there is a very obvious increase in 15-44 age group.

This will be interesting to track as the older age group come out of shielding.