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Schools to remain closed until October half term?

489 replies

stopcollaborateandlisten · 04/08/2020 11:56

Lots and lots coming out in the news how schools will finally be re-opening - anyone else think it might get pushed back at the last minute to after the October half term?

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Beawillalwaysbetopdog · 04/08/2020 13:17

SOME schools managed to include all children if only by organising something for 1 or 2 half days a week, and keeping bubbles outside

In which case they went against the government guidance which said no rotas. Don't be cross with a school for following the guidance. Be cross with the government for issuing the guidance.

ceeveebee · 04/08/2020 13:18

Some state schools near me had all years back on a rota basis (1 week in / 1 week at home)
Private schools added in more year groups, particularly y5 as the 11+ is prevalent round here
Out state school was so full of supposed key worker’s children (including many who had SAHMs, and many who totally exaggerated their jobs ie accountants who are apparently part of “financial services“) that they couldn’t even let y1 back in. I don’t blame the school, I blame the parents and the vague badly written government guidance.

FrippEnos · 04/08/2020 13:19

YgritteSnow

I am quite worried about the situation in Scottish schools and feel that they are being used as a testing ground.

Also the virus hasn't seemed to be as bad.

cologne4711 · 04/08/2020 13:19

This is the latest guidance: dfemedia.blog.gov.uk/2020/08/04/returning-to-school-in-september-your-questions-answered/

I am not sure how this fits in with ds' 6th form college's plans to have one week in and one week off (and remote learning for that week) during September.

Lovemusic33 · 04/08/2020 13:20

I think it’s very likely all schools will be open in September, there’s also a high chance many will have to close over the winter if there are outbreaks. As the weather gets colder the risk is likely to be higher (though no one really knows this for sure do they?).

YgritteSnow · 04/08/2020 13:21

I am quite worried about the situation in Scottish schools and feel that they are being used as a testing ground.

I agree sadly but didn't want to say that as I said it in RL and people got very angry and stressed about it. I'm sick of COVID related arguments on MN so tried to express my opinion in a low key way.

Chottie · 04/08/2020 13:22

No.

SantaClaritaDiet · 04/08/2020 13:23

Why denying FACTS?

The government closed the schools - but provision for childcare for key workers were made

The government reopened the schools for R, Y1 and Y6

THEN the government let it to the discretion of the schools to reopen to ALL year groups!
Some schools stepped up, as best as they could. Other schools refuse to bother and chose to discriminate and exclude some children.

SOME schools ONLY reopened part-time to the 3 year groups to start with anyway... It's not being grumpy to state FACTS and not put the blame on the government when it was purely the discretion of the schools.

Now some people will struggle to justify their decision to exclude and discriminate, but it's on them I am afraid. The fact that some schools and academies managed to try to be as inclusive as they could proves it was possible.

FrippEnos · 04/08/2020 13:24

YgritteSnow

I am quite happy to say it as it needs saying.

No doubt I will get called a "dementor" or "doom monger" but fuck em.
:)

SantaClaritaDiet · 04/08/2020 13:25

Out state school was so full of supposed key worker’s children (including many who had SAHMs, and many who totally exaggerated their jobs ie accountants who are apparently part of “financial services“)

A key worker can be married to a SAH parent or a shop keeper, they were still entitled to a space - one parent was enough to qualify.
It's not exaggerating to state that your job qualifies when it does! The list of "key workers" is clear, why wouldn't parent follow the guidelines when they are allowed to?

FrippEnos · 04/08/2020 13:26

SantaClaritaDiet

Your FACTS are only partial FACTS.

So your FACTS are worthless and they don't FACTUALLY tell the whole story.

As for discriminating that is just you making up your own FACTS.

Devlesko · 04/08/2020 13:26

I think primary will stay open come what may and it will be up to parents whether they trust the safety measures put in place/ really need the childcare.

I'm not so sure about secondary as they don't affect the economy if they are off, as they don't need a parent at home.

FrippEnos · 04/08/2020 13:27

Oh and

The fact that some schools and academies managed to try to be as inclusive as they could proves it was possible.

Only means that the FACT is that some schools could do it. Not that all schools were able to do it. FACT

speakout · 04/08/2020 13:28

Schools here wil be open in 9 days time- Scotland.

Fedup21 · 04/08/2020 13:28

The fact that some schools and academies managed to try to be as inclusive as they could proves it was possible

No, that proves it was possible for that school.

Some schools were larger and had more available space.
Some schools had huge numbers of vulnerable teachers and TAs shielding.

Just because some schools managed it and others didn’t, doesn’t mean those that didn’t, just didn’t try hard enough.

Spikeyball · 04/08/2020 13:28

SantaClaritaDiet what sort of discrimination are you talking about?

FrippEnos · 04/08/2020 13:28

SantaClaritaDiet

And the government only ever said that years 10 and 12 should go back in secondary. FACT

Littleposh · 04/08/2020 13:28

Oh good, another thread on utter bollocks. Can't you people who are clearly desperate for schools to remain closed just discuss amongst your own kind on one of the several thousand other threads on this non-subject??

lunar1 · 04/08/2020 13:29

I am hoping for part time and then ramping up if things are stable. I'd much rather they were in some of the time, than full time for a month and then closing again.

God knows what will happen here as we are in lockdown again here.

Fedup21 · 04/08/2020 13:29

It's not being grumpy to state FACTS

It is being grumpy to state that just because some schools could do it, that other schools could as well as a FACT, when it clearly isn’t.

ceeveebee · 04/08/2020 13:31

Because the spirit of the guidance was to enable provision of key services and enabling the economy to open up. How is it fair that a SAHP gets to send their kids to school, whereas people working full time had to juggle their kids at home?
And accountants don’t qualify - they are not part of the key financial services infrastructure - but schools can only rely on what they are told by parents

blue25 · 04/08/2020 13:32

Plenty of teachers will refuse to go back if cases keep rising, so there won’t be much choice.

YgritteSnow · 04/08/2020 13:32

@Littleposh

Oh good, another thread on utter bollocks. Can't you people who are clearly desperate for schools to remain closed just discuss amongst your own kind on one of the several thousand other threads on this non-subject??
Why not just hide the corona virus board if you're finding it so irritating? There's clearly an appetite for discussion given the amount of posts. You didn't have to post and join in did you?
Spikeyball · 04/08/2020 13:33

Deciding to allow some year groups to attend and others not is not discrimination. It is not covered by the Equality Act 2010.

SantaClaritaDiet · 04/08/2020 13:35

@Fedup21

It's not being grumpy to state FACTS

It is being grumpy to state that just because some schools could do it, that other schools could as well as a FACT, when it clearly isn’t.

I am not the one being grumpy, some posters sound like they worked in school and were the ones making the (bad) decision and now struggling to justify them.

You might not like to be told that deciding to exclude some children is discriminatory and some schools tried really hard to avoid that - others didn't bother, but that's what it is.

It's not even an opinion, it's merely looking at the way various schools handled everything. Stating that some schools (and school leaders) have been abysmal is an opinion Grin