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Cardiac Damage Even in Mild Cases

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ClimbDad · 28/07/2020 08:42

Two studies of COVID-19 sufferers show serious damage to the heart, even in mild and asymptomatic cases. 78% of people had damage in one study, which specifically excluded anyone who’d previously been diagnosed with a heart condition. 2/3rds of people in the study were never hospitalised with COVID19, and were classed as mild or asymptomatic cases who’d recovered at home.

“These were relatively young, healthy patients who fell ill in the spring, Valentina Puntmann, who led the MRI study, pointed out in an interview. Many of them had just returned from ski vacations. None of them thought they had anything wrong with their hearts.”

Dirk Westermann, a cardiologist at the University Heart and Vascular Centre in Hamburg, said in an interview. “We don’t know the long-term consequences of the changes in gene expression yet. I know from other diseases that it’s obviously not good to have that increased level of inflammation.”

Taken together, the two studies, published Monday in JAMA Cardiology, suggest that in many patients, Covid-19 could presage heart failure, a chronic, progressive condition in which the heart’s ability to pump blood throughout the body declines. It is too soon to say if the damage in patients recovering from Covid-19 is transient or permanent, but cardiologists are worried.“

78%, not 1%, not even 7%. 78% with heart problems. These complications are not rare. I don’t understand why so many people on MN are willing to gamble their long-term health and the health of friends and family.

If schools are to open with normal class sizes in September, students and teachers must wear masks. The long-term human and economic cost of this virus is only just starting to become clear. We need to do everything possible to minimise transmission.

www.statnews.com/2020/07/27/covid19-concerns-about-lasting-heart-damage/

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5363738383j · 30/07/2020 00:00

lous

Why do you think anyone is in awe?

lousleftkneelies · 30/07/2020 00:03

Re-read all the posts.

5363738383j · 30/07/2020 00:26

I see people throwing around the term to sound scientific and gain credibility. Also, in some cases, to distinguish between posters randomly making announcements and those linking to research. And in other cases, to show that their dad's best friend's cat has some science training. No one seems particularly in awe of anything but their own ego.

CovoidanceMechanism · 30/07/2020 07:04

lousleftkneelies I admit I don’t understand the disagreement on this thread fully but reading your last few contributions made me wonder what made you think there was a dangerous virus around and what you think the risk is?

This is a genuine question but may well sound snippy, apologies if so, but were you first alerted by mainstream media sources, government announcements or adverts or something else? Or following scientific journals or clinical guidance?

I also wonder whether posters who are upset about raising concerns about the long term effects of covid 19 would prefer to be treated by a doctor who was optimistic and sure they would fight off any illness or one who was pessimistic and constantly looking out for signs something was going wrong.

My GP often makes me feel better and that I can cope with an illness or stress without medication. With a cancer scare I wanted really thorough tests.

CovoidanceMechanism · 30/07/2020 07:18

I am in awe of the havoc and devastation wreaked by this pandemic already. In fact ‘shock and awe’ is a good description when I contemplate the global situation. Our lives have been turned upside down, I know many are in a far worse situation than I am.

One side effect of this thread is wondering if my own lungs have been previously damaged by a common viral illness. I had thought it was an after effect of swine flu that in recent years I’ve had real breathing problems with winter illnesses which I never used to have.

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