Where did people actually catch COVID-19?

[NewAndImprovedNorks]

I have tried to google and have been trying to find some statistical data.
Either I am asking the wrong question, or just being a bit dense with the search terms.
I wonder if anyone could suggest a resource with factual statistics concerning how most coronavirus was contracted.?

I am particularly interested in how many cases were contracted at supermarkets / walking dogs / handling mail etc. In other words, normal everyday tasks.

BTW, I am NOT a journalist, I am just interested to discover how it has ACTUALLY been transferred to help me with some (Mostly friendly) arguments and with my (mostly mild) health anxiety

Thank you to anyone who can shove me in the right direction

@Arnoldthecat - how many people do you know in care homes? Who were in hospital at the start of lockdown? Supermarket workers? Frontline NHS staff? Not many I guess. That could explain why you don't know anyone who caught it.
Regarding the funeral company. Before Covid funeral directors made money with cars for family members, caskets, providing the full service of chapel of rest (where people visit to pay their last respects). 45,000 people didn't have such a funeral.

I tihnk a lot of people in sectors like shops, care homes, hospitals get it at work and the NHS I believe has a very high %. In fact they found cleaners (30%) had it in one hospital whereas only 11% of the medical staff. I suspect it is caught by fairly close contact things in the early days like choirs, face to face appointments lasting 20 minutes plus (and of course someone you live with).

No idea if I've had it but was sat next to a guy from one of our Europe offices on a training course who went to be diagnosed about 10 days later. No-one else on the course or in the building seemed to catch up but then no idea as she was when there wasn't mass testing. We weren't told the guys diagnosis until a few days after he was tested.

After that course I spent two weeks manically travelling round the UK through airports etc to see clients before we were told to lockdown.

Who knows if I had it but never showed symptoms and who I then passed it to.

I'm can't be sure if I've had it or not - I was ill for 10 days back in March, just before lockdown started, when there was no testing unless you were hospitalised, but I had flu-like symptoms, fever and a continuous, dry cough so it seemed likely.

My son was fine but his teacher and one of his friends were very ill so if I did have it I either got it from my son or via his home school record that his teacher had handled.

What I am interested in though is proper scientific data.
Researched evidence.
Factual data.

Does it not exist? Have studies been done and I just can’t find them?

This doesn't refer to how it was transmitted but gives you an idea of how it is transmitted generally. It's certainly put me off eating inside a restaurant
www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

It's usually difficult to say where individuals got their infection

People are infectious for day before symptoms
Some people shed a great deal more virus than most others, within a particular time window of being infected
10% of infected people spread 80-90 % of infections, while the other 90% of people infect 0 or 1 person

The only scientific papers I've seen are details of individual superspreading events - in workplaces, church services, carnivals etc -
where it is extremely likely that nearly all those infected caught it from the superspreader

I'm in NSW, Australia and they have been very successful in pinpointing exactly where people caught it. Mostly care homes, but also church and private gatherings.

I know 11 people that were tested and confirmed with Covid.

My dad was retired and lived alone, only places he had been in the run up to becoming sick were the supermarket, petrol station and pharmacy.

He'd also visited his partner and her son who both had symptoms (although not tested) but after my dad, so more likely my dad gave it to them

Others I know of:

• 1 elderly case that was caught in hospital
• 1 infant case caught from another child at playgroup (unknown where that child caught it) and it was then passed onto 3 immediate family members
• 1 long distance lorry driver who more than likely caught it in a petrol/service station and passed it to his 3 immediate family members

DS had symptoms just before lockdown but not tested. If Covid is what he had then he probably caught it school - a number of children had been on a ski trip and one in his form lives in Italy and had been home at half term. The second day he was off sick when I rang in I was told almost 100 pupils and staff were off that day with "Covid symptoms"

The one relative whose had it, caught it from hospital, went in negative, positive a week later, same hospital that was shown/talked about on some of the bbc covid programmes.

School trip to an area with high number of cases - kids return and some are ill. My DD gets sick (not too bad), I get same symptoms as DD, DP gets very ill, DS gets dry cough but not very sick and youngest has no symptoms. No testing available but weeks later DP goes to hospital for tests looking for long term damage. They found damage and conclude he had COVID. So we assume kids returned with COVID and pass it to DD who passed to us.

Either my then 2 year old son who had an odd dry cough and Temperature (he often got coughs but they were always productive this was before we knew it was in our country tho so late January/early feb) or one of my tutees who was a fit healthy late teens and had an unexplained case of pneumonia in Mid to late February.

Caught it from DH who caught it from the airport where he worked. I was getting him to shower upon returning, disinfecting everything etc and he was isolated as soon as he started coughing but to no avail. I suspect it’s pretty easy to catch within a household setting.

My daughter got it at the nursing home. She is an administrator. The patients were sheltered and there was no Covid among them, but the patients' families threw fits when visitation was suspended. There was an open meeting to explain things to the families. Two weeks later all three of the employees who attended the meeting tested positive for Covid. Inference: Got it from a family member at the meeting.

@greyishdays

Re funerals,
The hearses were going to the crem or the church, whereas often they'd go to the house, the church and then the crem. With fewer attendees and those unable to share a car, there won't have been the usual cortège, either. Just the hearse itself.
Plus more direct funerals.

*But funerals have not been allowed? So people are spending a lot less money on them... confused•

Funerals have continued throughout, admittedly with less mourners permitted. But it’s not like a wedding, you don’t have more costs then more people go.

Considering half the deaths in Scotland were in care homes there must have been a lot of spread there.

I'm pretty sure I caught it at school, before lockdown. I hadn't been anywhere else except maybe the corner shop for some time before. There were some children who may have had it in the week or 2 leading up. My DH and sons caught it from me, i think- they developed it within days.

I think I caught at school Lots of children in my class off with coughs and temperatures but that is not unusual. Lots of our children's parents commute to London Passed it my husband Mine became apparent 1 week before lock down. I had been so busy at school and only went between there and home the two weeks before. Husband was doing the shopping etc but he got ill after me. In my class my cleaner, and TA got it as well plus the person I sit next to in the staff room who passed it to her family. The teacher who worked in the other classroom isolated with his family the three days before as his child shown temperature symptoms and their partner worked in the NHS. So could be from many sources

My GP told me back in March that there was quite a large incidence in the local area due to the skiing factor ( so I definitely had to stay in) Everyone seems to go off skiing round here.

Now, however (TOUCH WOOD) the numbers here are negligible.

Every time I go on holiday three days later without fail I get a cold. Or, on one occasion, a stonking great flu so had to lie sweating and shivering in bed in Las Vegas. So I believe planes are a huge risk transmission-wise.

We were already isolating and wiping down shopping etc. DH went on an essential trip to the chemist (no mask) and was ill a couple of days after that. He hadn’t been out for a couple of weeks before that. We weren’t even touching post etc so I’m pretty sure that’s where he caught it.

I read a good article about this. Confined spaces with a lack of good ventilation, especially where contact is more prolonged than a brief pop into a shop or similar.

There are many, many, many bugs which are not the coronavirus. Everyone who had the slightest moment of feeling 1% below par in March now confidently states that they had COVID-19.

I am not a naysayer and am as leaden with doom as anyone else on here, but I think that trying to learn from people’s anecdotes of where their illness was caught - unless they are certain - is scaremongering. Frankly I don’t believe anyone has caught Covid from delivered shopping or off a gatepost on a country walk (as I have seen claimed on other threads).

Washing hands should prevent the spread of a lot of bugs.

A school did a study and found hand washing increased school attendance as they were less sick

[quote picklemewalnuts]@greyishdays

Re funerals,
The hearses were going to the crem or the church, whereas often they'd go to the house, the church and then the crem. With fewer attendees and those unable to share a car, there won't have been the usual cortège, either. Just the hearse itself.
Plus more direct funerals.[/quote]
That makes sense.