No sympathy for people who booked a recent holiday

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Headlines this morning have got me cross. People who are 'devastated' that their holiday to Spain that they booked last week won't go ahead as they can't quarantine on return and lost all their money.
How stupid to book a holiday when you know it is a risk. We were going to go away and had not booked anything as was leaving it till the last minute. . We still could but I would not expect my work to pay for me in quarantine on top of two weeks away. It is understandable if I had booked before the pandemic but why should a firm pay for quarantine for those who knowingly knew it may be a risk.
I have full sympathy for those that booked before the pandemic and at least they will be insured. But c'mon how can you be upset that you have lost your money for a holiday you booked last week and now can't go on due to quarantine?

@Dominicgoings

YANBU OP. I’m a ‘keyworket in healthcare’ and I wouldn’t even dream of booking a holiday or travelling. The whole whiny ‘But I neeeeeed my week in Benidorm’ attitude is pathetic.

Spend your money at home, boost your local economy and stop being a nation of pathetic cry babies
We’re in the middle of a fucking worldwide pandemic ffs.

Exactly.

And maybe spending our money at home will help us improve our own economy which funds our excellent nhs (not well I admit!)

Better than spending it on airplane companies who don't pay tax in UK or top up other countries economies.

I had a holiday booked. Booked before pandemic. Glad it's cancelled.

@GilderoyLockdown ahhh I see. Vague whataboutery. Gotcha.

You missed my point, England has as high if not higher infection rate, yet there appears to be little or no action on that

This is an inaccurate statement jasjas

UK - 764 cases of new infection
France - over a thousand
Spain - over two thousand

Please check your facts before posting. Spain and France are seeing many many more new infection cases with R rate of well over one.

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Not all of us have been furloughed watching Netflix on the sofa for the last 3 months

I think we really need to end this "us and them" mentality over work. Most people have had a pretty shit time of the last few months regardless of their working situation. There's no competition.

I’m not going anywhere for the time being. I’ve had a very easy lockdown and don’t feel the need for a holiday. I travelled extensively last year and so I’m quite happy to stay home for the next year or so.

I have nothing but sympathy for people who felt differently, who booked what were presumably much needed holidays and have now had their plans spoiled and lost money.

Grant chaps.... what a plonker🤣🤣🤣

What a nasty post OP.

Glorying in people’s misery. Being smug and calling them stupid.

We’re going to Italy, driving and staying in villas to minimise contact. We figured it’d be safer than Bournemouth beach.

I booked a weekend visiting my daughter in another country in a rare moment of optimism back in February or March. I did kick myself afterwards, but I was fully aware that the situation might change and that there was a risk. Anyone who still doesn’t realize how quickly the situation can change by now must be in some kind of denial.

So I have a limited amount of sympathy. They took a risk and it didn’t work out. It’s hardly headline-worthy so I understand your annoyance that the papers are pretending it is so. It’s about as newsworthy as “bears shit in the woods”.

It’s not selfish for the holiday companies / airlines to want to restart - there will be massive redundancies if they can’t.
It’s not selfish to want to go on holiday.

100s of 1000s work on our high streets, in our travel sectors and our airports, if we stop all but essential travel, then be prepared for even more mass unemployment and years of no foreign hols, even when we have a vaccine, as the sector would have vanished and would need new starts up to begin again.

Perhaps a better way would be rapid testing/results both at the airport and on multiple testing on return.
We also need far better track and trace, with an App but we appear to be far away from that too.

Oh FFS. I'm a key worker in healthcare and I NEED a bloody holiday. Ive worked really hard without a break over the last few months and I need a break. Frankly, I dont give a flying fck that this bothers you.

You don't need a break abroad, you want one.

Totally agree op, if they were on the news shrugging and saying 'well we took a huge risk in a global pandemic knowing this could happen' I'd think fair enough but it's all the daily mail sad faces and devastation that are eye rolling.

Why book to go abroad now fgs?! I bet they'll all be expecting government support and rescue flights next.

All the people saying 'they should have just gone on holiday in the UK' - until really very recently Spain was looking safer than the UK, and like they'd got a much better handle on things. Also, people expected local lockdowns, but my understanding is that most of the tourists are nowhere near where the actual outbreaks are, so may reasonably have felt it wouldn't affect them. By that logic I can't go on holiday in the UK either, because what if there's a lockdown in Luton while I'm in Cornwall.

The incredibly unwelcoming messages from some of the UK's most popular holiday spots (ahem, Cornwall) has almost certainly made staying in the UK a lot less appealing to a lot of people, anyway.

I think this thread is horrible. It's clear that it's a load of people delighted that people who they feel aren't following the rules (even though they were, in fact, within the rules) are finally getting their comeuppance. To be fair it must be nice for them to finally get this, after the terrible disappointment of there being no VE Day/beaches opening/pubs opening second waves - they might have had to start to wonder if their opposition to anyone else having fun was actually because they're miserable as fuck, rather than a reasoned scientific position...

'We’re going to Italy, driving and staying in villas to minimise contact. We figured it’d be safer than Bournemouth beach.'

Lovely. Here's a tip though, there's a global pandemic so if there's a surge in Italy you may have to quarantine on your return.

It seems people need everything spelling out for them. A guide for everything.

Please check your facts before posting. Spain and France are seeing many many more new infection cases with R rate of well over one

I did, you need to check yours, look at the ONS figures, with their weekly survey?
Countries have different official testing regimes, the UK tests mainly in the health sectors, other countries test in the community, as the ONS bases its estimates on & no one is challenging these figures!

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata

By that logic I can't go on holiday in the UK either, because what if there's a lockdown in Luton while I'm in Cornwall.

Correct

Sadly that absolutely could happen to you. At least now people are understanding it a bit better ffs

I think this thread is horrible. It's clear that it's a load of people delighted that people who they feel aren't following the rules (even though they were, in fact, within the rules) are finally getting their comeuppance.

No. Complete frustration at people who don't realise, that during a global pandemic where we've been repeatedly warned that the rules might change, that rules might change!

I would have sympathy if it wasn't for all the sad face woe is me 'we weren't told' 'I wouldn't have booked if I'd known' stories floating around today.

Lovely. Here's a tip though, there's a global pandemic so if there's a surge in Italy you may have to quarantine on your return.

tbf the people I know going abroad are similar to me in that they have been wfh since March so quarantine on return is not particularly an issue.

The pandemic continues to bring out the best in people I see. Back to judging other peoples actions and deciding what is essential or not for other people. Why don't you just worry about yourself instead of gloating at other peoples expenses?!?

'All the people saying 'they should have just gone on holiday in the UK' - until really very recently Spain was looking safer than the UK, and like they'd got a much better handle on things'

Yes but it's an ever changing situation! So great book your holiday but expect things to change if there are spikes in cases. Expect to have quarantine on your return and just be pleased if there isn't any. It's the attitude of these poor me holiday makers that is ridiculous.

There are no guarantees, so take a risk but don't whinge at the consequences.

Complete frustration at people who don't realise, that during a global pandemic where we've been repeatedly warned that the rules might change, that rules might change!

Why should someone being in quarantine on their return be a reason for you to be frustrated? they will no pose little or no risk to you?

How about swapping Frustration for Glee?

I blame the inane chat at the hairdressers!
plus the media did say that spain wanted the holiday makers!

[quote sonicbook]@GilderoyLockdown ahhh I see. Vague whataboutery. Gotcha. [/quote]
Ah, spurious claims of whataboutery when you can't think of anything else to say to counter a point. How dull.