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People not wearing facemasks?

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Bbq1 · 25/07/2020 23:47

I'm the first to say I hate facemasks. I have an overheating issue and literally pour with sweat and feel ill with the heat when I wear one. I've started to limit my shopping but had to go out today. Tesco, I literally walked in and out in a minute as it's an express and they didn't have what i wanted. Noticed a few people wearing masks. Second shop, I held the mask against my face because I couldn't bear to fully wear it. As I was leaving an old lady came in, no mask. Next shop, while i was in there struggling to shop and hold the mask against my mouth i saw a youngish couple with 2 kids. Neither of the couple had a mask on. As I was waiting to be served a woman came the staff clearly knew her. Again, no mask. Before anyone says anything i am fully aware that many disabilities are hidden as I have invisible health issues myself. However, i don't believe they all had health issues. I think people are just choosing not to wear masks. I am totally against making masks in shops mandatory myself but we have to abide by it. Thing is none of the.people I saw without masks were questioned about it in any way. I think mask wearing will slip as people see people without them and decide they won't wear one themselves. More so if people aren't even asked to wear masks in some shops. Have other people seen quite a few people minus a mask whilst shopping over the weekend?

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Bbq1 · 26/07/2020 12:01

[quote GinWithRosie]@Bbq1 you are holding the mask against your face? 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I despair![/quote]
@GinWithRosie
Why are you despairing? Because I am trying to comply and protect others
and myself (supposedly) by holding the mask against myself? I feel sick and dizzy wearing a mask, watch 3 out of the other 4 shoppers in the shop strolling round mask free but still attempt to comlpy. No msybr it's not ideal to hold a mask like that but at least I'm trying.

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Bbq1 · 26/07/2020 12:15

@Derbygerbil

Of course the OP wouldn’t be within her rights to be exempt!!! The only people who are exempt are those who can’t wear one. Not those that don’t like it

It seemed the OP had genuine difficulties due to her health as opposed to simply being a bit uncomfortable, and in the absence of doctor’s note and medical certificate, it will need to be left to individual judgment.

Yes, @Derbygerbil, Thank you for noticing that I mentioned I do have genuine heath issues and difficulties wearing a mask. I've been trying to get an appointment with my gp to see if I can be exempt but in the meantime I'm trying to comply. I think that people who are comfortable wearing a mask have absolutely no idea how awful if feels for those of us who struggle with it. Upthread somebody implied that because I have hidden health issues I should assume that others do. I actually stated that I always consider that but out of 4 people in a shop I can't believe that the 4 of them have heath issues. Elderly aren't exempt. Surely they have more reason to wear one? My mum is 80 and has started wearing one as per the rules.
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notangelinajolie · 26/07/2020 12:17

OP please stop wearing your mask in this way. This virus is spread by contact. Constantly touching your face means you are potentially spreading this virus to any surface you touch and you are putting yourself and others in danger.

BlackPetunia · 26/07/2020 12:21

If you’ve got A problem with theses people not wearing masks then address it with them!?

BlackPetunia · 26/07/2020 12:22

I’d everyone washing their hands both immediately before putting the mask on and as soon as it’s removed?

Not from what I’ve seen after manning the door at my place of work today

Dadnotamum72 · 26/07/2020 12:30

The government would have been better off going all out masks for everyone no exceptions inluding shop staff and those with really genuine exceptions would just for the time being have to get someone to do the shoping for them.

As it is you dont kniw if soneobe is genuine or just being a dick.
And I think i read somewhere that a doctor would never write an exception note because virtually no one should be genuinely excempt.
May seem a bit harsh but were in a pandamic, I dont really want to get ill because of someones rights to not were a mask.

esveee · 26/07/2020 12:31

@BlackPetunia how am I meant to do that? I'm desperate to get it off when I leave a shop so I can breathe for a minute, defog my glasses and cool the hell down.

BlackPetunia · 26/07/2020 12:39

@esveee don’t know, it’s in the government guidelines though,as part of the face covering rules

Hand sanitizer?

I’ve stood greeting at our door today, given out a few masks to those who have forgotten, but they literally pull them out of a pocket as they approach the door. Then stuff it back in as they leave. One man left his young kids in the car as I was there to keep an eye out as he felt the threat level has suddenly increased!! Last week he took them in no issue!

It’s madness.

esveee · 26/07/2020 12:43

@BlackPetunia Do I care of its part of the rules? Sorry I need to breathe. Sorry I need to touch and adjust multiple times in a shop because I need to both breathe and see. I'm aware that raises the risk FOR ME but getting judgey about it isn't going to make me any less likely to touch it! I can't help it. The only other option is I don't go in shops at all, which is getting more attractive by the minute.

BlackPetunia · 26/07/2020 12:46

Yeah well you see those people in store then after not washing hands, fiddling with face masks ....then they touch everything on the shelves (ignoring the signs to not touch everything)

Fabulous!

GinWithRosie · 26/07/2020 12:49

It @Bbq1 you are not complying by holding it to your face 🤷‍♀️ You’re just not.

MinorArcana · 26/07/2020 12:57

I’ve been in a big Tesco, a small Co-op, and a library this weekend.

Almost all the customers were wearing face masks, I only saw 2 adults not wearing one. I didn’t see many children, but about half of the children who looked under 11yrs were also wearing a face mask.

I know it’s not compulsory for shop workers to wear masks, I didn’t see any Tesco worker wearing a mask, but all the librarians and all the Co-op staff were also wearing face masks. One of the Co-op workers had a see through visor on, I’m guessing that she must be one of the people who can’t wear a normal face mask.

So very high compliance around my area from what I’ve seen so far.

OpheliasCrayon · 26/07/2020 14:13

@lilylion

You aren’t wearing a mask properly and you’ve posted moaning about other people not wearing one?

Before anyone says anything i am fully aware that many disabilities are hidden as I have invisible health issues myself. However, i don't believe they all had health issues. I think people are just choosing not to wear masks. I am totally against making masks in shops mandatory myself but we have to abide by it

Are you even reading what you are writing?

FWIW if you can’t wear one, you can’t wear one, stop holding it over your face. And stop judging other people.

You have hidden disabilities But you've decided to judge others and say that they all dont have any health issues, whilst you're wearing a mask by touching it which has rendered it completely pointless anyway.

Erm what?

OpheliasCrayon · 26/07/2020 14:15

Also 70% of people with disabilities in the UK have hidden ones. So it's perfectly possible that the 4 people you've decided to pick on have hidden issues.
Stop judging!

SallyLovesCheese · 26/07/2020 14:26

I was in the local big Sainsbury's yesterday and saw just two adults not wearing a mask. There is no way to tell why not, but I like to think it's because they genuinely can't rather than because they don't want to. But the other 80+ people I saw were wearing them.

As it is, I was no closer than about 3m to either of the non-mask wearers and merely passed by briefly, so the chance of catching anything from them is so slim. I'm far more likely to catch something at school from one of the 140 people in my bubble in September, so I'm not going to worry about those who aren't wearing masks in shops that I pass by briefly, and continue to wear mine and regularly use the antibacterial wipes and hand gel I have.

Itwontrainallthetime · 26/07/2020 14:59

It's the same where I live I nipped to the post office which is in the town centre and the little shops no one had a mask on in them so I didn't go in and won't be, yesterday, I went into b&ms, sign on door saying that people needed to wear masks etc no one there at the entrance to make sure that people are wearing them. Anyways it was packed ,full families in the store , nothing wrong with this as people are "suppose" to be wearing masks now but half of the families had children with them and not one of the children had masks on.
I'm still not going in stores with my as a family ,they wait in the car and I go in the shop, I have done this from the start and will continue to do so to protect my family and other people. If there is any reason I need to take my children in with me I will make sure they wear a mask and follow the rules.
The workers don't need to wear the masks so by wearing our masks we protect them too.
People can argue that we managed through the whole lock down with no masks just hygiene and social distencing ,but how it is now I feel it's far worse than at the start, far to many people out and in the shops no social distancing all because they think just wearing a mask will be all they need for protection everything else has gone out the window.

Jossen · 26/07/2020 15:01

If people don’t want to wear or can’t wear one then that’s their business not yours. Just concentrate on what you’re doing.

IAintentDead · 26/07/2020 16:09

BlackPetunia Sun 26-Jul-20 12:21:39
If you’ve got A problem with theses people not wearing masks then address it with them!?

None of your business if someone chooses not to wear one. Government guidance is NOT to challenge anyone - so if you do you are guilty of harassment.

Dadnotamum72 Sun 26-Jul-20 12:30:37
As it is you dont kniw if soneobe is genuine or just being a dick.

whereas on here we are left in doubt which you are

And I think i read somewhere that a doctor would never write an exception note because virtually no one should be genuinely excempt. No it's because they have more important things to do. and many know they are pointless anyway

May seem a bit harsh but were in a pandamic, I dont really want to get ill because of someones rights to not were a mask. You have the choice - you stay home
(All spelling is PPs own)

TheGreatWave · 26/07/2020 16:27

If there is any reason I need to take my children in with me I will make sure they wear a mask and follow the rules.

If my children are in a shop with me they will be following the rules and not wearing a mask.

Bbq1 · 26/07/2020 17:12

Children under 11 aren't required to wear a mask. As matter of fact it's been advised that children really shouldn't wear masks as there is a risk of suffocation.
Also I would never, ever approach anyone and ask why they weren't wearing a mask. That is so wrong. It's one thing wondering why so few people aren't wearing them and another matter entirely questioning them.

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sweetkitty · 26/07/2020 17:17

We’ve been wearing masks for over 3 weeks in Scotland (I think not quite sure) and were shaking our heads at all the fuss down South. I’ve not seen anyone not wearing one, unless it’s a child under 5. Yes they are a pain but you quickly get used to popping them on when your going to the shops. I’ve sat in a hairdressers for 3 hours with one on which wasn’t that pleasant but I didn’t pass out from lack of oxygen.

SengaStrawberry · 26/07/2020 17:24

May seem a bit harsh but were in a pandamic, I dont really want to get ill because of someones rights to not were a mask

But even if they wore a mask you might still get it.

luckylavender · 26/07/2020 17:28

A medical point of view..

RETIRED SURGEON Sam Laucks, has this to say about wearing masks:
“OK, here’s my rant about masks:
I have spent the past 39 years working in the field of surgery. For a significant part of that time, I have worn a mask. I have worked with hundreds (probably thousands) of colleagues during those years, who have also worn masks. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from lack of oxygen. Not a single one of us became ill, passed out or died from breathing too much carbon dioxide. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from rebreathing a little of our own exhaled air. Let’s begin here by putting those scare tactics to rest!
(It is true that some people, with advanced lung diseases, may be so fragile that a mask could make their already-tenuous breathing more difficult. If your lungs are that bad, you probably shouldn’t be going out in public at the present time anyway; the consequences if you are exposed to Covid-19 would likely be devastating.)
~ “But”, you ask, “can’t viruses go right through the mask, because they are so small?” (“Masks keep viruses out just as well as a chain link fence keeps mosquitoes out,” some tell us.) It is true that individual virus particles can pass through the pores of a mask; however, viruses don’t move on their own. They do not fly across the room like a mosquito, wiggle through your mask like a worm, or fly up your nose like a gnat. The virus is essentially nothing more than a tiny blob of genetic material. Covid-19 travels in a CARRIER – the carrier is a fluid droplet- fluid droplets that you expel when you cough, sneeze, sing, laugh, talk or simply exhale. Most of your fluid droplets will be stopped from entering the air in the room if you are wearing a mask. Wearing a mask is a very efficient way to protect others if you are carrying the virus (even if you don’t know that you are infected). In addition, if someone else’s fluid droplets happen to land on your mask, many of them will not pass through. This gives the wearer some additional protection, too. But, the main reason to wear a mask is to PROTECT OTHERS. Even if you don’t care about yourself, wear your mask to protect your neighbors, co-workers and friends!
~ A mask is certainly not 100% protective. However, it appears that the severity of Covid-19 infection is at least partially “dose-dependent.” In other words, the more virus particles that enter your body, the sicker you are likely to become. Why not decrease that volume if you can? “What have you got to lose?!”
~ “But doesn’t a requirement or a request to wear a mask violate my constitutional rights?” You’re also not allowed to go into the grocery store if you are not wearing pants. You can’t yell “fire” in the Produce Department. You’re not allowed to urinate on the floor in the Frozen Food Section. Do you object to those restrictions? Rules, established for the common good, are component of a civilized society.
~ “But aren’t masks uncomfortable?” Some would say that underwear or shoes can be uncomfortable, but we still wear them. (Actually, being on a ventilator is pretty darned uncomfortable, too!) Are masks really so bad that you can’t tolerate them, even if they will help keep others healthy?
~ “But won’t people think I’m a snowflake or a wimp if I wear a mask?” I hope you have enough self-confidence to overcome that.
~ “But won’t I look stupid if I wear a mask?” I’ve decided not to dignify that question with an answer!! 🙂
~ “But I never get sick; I’m not worried.” Well, then, wear a mask for the sake of the rest of us who are not so perfect!
There is good evidence that masks make a real difference in diminishing the transmission of Covid-19. Please, for the sake of others (and for the sake of yourself), wear your mask when in public. It won’t kill you!
P.S. - And, by the way, please be sure that BOTH your nose and mouth are covered!
Recommendations around mask usage are confusing. The science isn't. Evidence shows that masks are extremely effective to slow the coronavirus and may be the best tool available right now to fight it.”

Zoflorabore · 26/07/2020 17:30

My ds is 17 and has Aspergers and severe anxiety. He went in a shop today with his dad for the first time since March and was horrified that “hardly anyone” had a mask on.
This is at Aintree retail park on the outskirts of Liverpool. They went to 2 shops and said there were few people wearing them and that social distancing was virtually non existent in one of the shops.

My dp ( not ds’s dad ) went out for food shopping and a few other bits to a smaller retail park on Friday and was shocked that he was in the minority of people wearing a mask. He even questioned that it was definitely mandatory from 24th July.

I’m going to Aintree myself tomorrow so will be interesting to see how many people are wearing masks. Technically, all 4 of us in our household could be exempt but we are choosing to wear one ( dd (9) didn’t like it and has asthma so I’m not going to force her as she’s under 11 anyway)

JorisBonson · 26/07/2020 17:30

Woman complains about people not wearing masks, while not really wearing a mask.

🤦🏻‍♀️

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