Am I bad parent for not putting a mask on my 4 yo?

[Mummypig2020]

Iv seen SO many young children wearing masks and gloves. Iv decided not to make my Dd wear one. Does this make me a bad parent? I really struggle to wear one.

@commentatorz before you say it, I'm not anti mask but I am anti nosey pompous interfering self appointed stasi

So anti-mask equals anti-society.

I think I see the problem here. With all due respect, I think you need help.

2 questions- Why would you have a word with some one not putting a mask on their child when it is NOT REQUIRED by law, as has been pointed out by numerous posters?
And secondly, do you expect kids (and people in general) to wear a mask whenever they are out of the house? Out for a walk etc, rather than just in supermarkets/shops/medical settings etc?

My child loves wearing one. I don't force it though.

There are always going to be people who want everyone to take it one step further. Even if all children older than 2yo (or whatever age is deemed acceptable) were wearing masks in shops, regardless of law, they would find something else to reinforce their view that everyone else is selfish and uncaring. Perhaps people not wearing masks in parks or something. People with this mindset will not be satisfied. Most of the rest of us know that the vast majority are just doing their best according to individual circumstances.

But a polite word to parents to mention that refusing to accept overwhelming scientific evidence on the benefit of masks endangers society is perfectly acceptable.

Ummm...what?

It doesn't make you a bad parent. My 5 year old won't/can't (asd - we have tried, she has tried it's not happening). I'm wearing one (asthmatic), dd1 is wearing one (autistic and asthmatic) and DH is wearing one. I am not going to cause a meltdown in dd2 as she doesn't have to and we are all wearing them (even though two of us could choose not to due to exempt conditions).

But a polite word to parents to mention that refusing to accept overwhelming scientific evidence on the benefit of masks endangers society is perfectly acceptable.

Can you link the overwhelming evidence that shows masking healthy people stops the spread of the Virus. Or even evidence that shows masking asymptotic people stops the spread.

And that's evidence it's stops the spread of covid 19 specifically, not just other viruses and bacterias.

Im still interested to see this evidence and yet noone has been able to provide anything other than opinion based.

A lot of transmission appears to be taking place among Asymptomatic and Presymptomstic people,

Studies have found that viral load peaks in the days before symptoms begin and that speaking is enough to expel virus-carrying droplets.

My DS is just a baby so it would be dangerous for him to wear one. There is no way I would make a 4 year old wear a mask. You are not being a bad parent at all.

And no one should be berating parents for not making children wear one!!

I don't have time as I'm at work but the evidence on facemasks is growing is there to see from the result of a simple Google search. For example www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/face-masks-really-do-matter-the-scientific-evidence-is-growing-11595083298.

If I get time I'll reply to the other nonsensical posts later. I don't really see how it's controversial tbh, it's no coincidence all the best performing countries wear them habitually.

And yes your 5 year old kid can both spread and be more at risk (emerging evidence to support this) from the virus by not wearing a mask.

So contact your MP and campaign then. You have zero right to "call out" aka "stick your fat nose in" to any under 11 in England not wearing a mask. If I ran a shop and caught you doing it I would kick you out for upsetting law abiding customers.

People are going to have to cope with the fact that, after 24th July in England, while the vast majority of people will comply with the rules and wear face coverings in shops etc, there will still be people who won’t. Perhaps they cannot wear them, perhaps are exempt, perhaps they don’t want to - you won’t be able to tell the difference, and you need to be able to handle that and get on with whatever you’re doing without letting it bother you too much. The government have explicitly cautioned against members of the public challenging those not wearing face coverings. It is not for you to police. And you need to be able to manage your feelings about that.

What do you bet that it won’t be large men not wearing masks who are challenged by nosey members of the public - it will be stressed mothers with non-mask-wearing children far more often.

@commentatorz

I don't have time as I'm at work but the evidence on facemasks is growing is there to see from the result of a simple Google search. For example www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/face-masks-really-do-matter-the-scientific-evidence-is-growing-11595083298.

If I get time I'll reply to the other nonsensical posts later. I don't really see how it's controversial tbh, it's no coincidence all the best performing countries wear them habitually.

And yes your 5 year old kid can both spread and be more at risk (emerging evidence to support this) from the virus by not wearing a mask.

The fact remains that you can ‘call people out’ as much as you want. It won’t change anything, and they are acting within the law. If anyone ‘calls me out’, I won’t even look at them, let alone respond. It will be wasted breath. But go ahead and do it if you want to. And Genua is right. I bet it will only be women with children you call out. Doubt you’ll say kick the the 6ft burly men.

*doubt you’ll say much to the 6ft burly men

Ok so my comment to all the stuff posted above.

I wont contact my MP as I expect mask wearing will be extended to children by autumn - I think this is a 2 step process to soften people up.

Secondly, no I would call out some massive bloke for not wearing a mask, for the exact same reason I wouldn't approach the same fella for speeding or talking on his mobile phone, lol that's just common sense. Small men and women and kids though, no problem.

And I will "call it out" if I see people causing a danger to myself and others. Just because something isn't illegal doesn't make it safe or right. You are of course free to disagree with me or ignore me.

If you were to “call me out” then I would be telling you to fuck off. Using those exact words as it would be none of your business.

And have the courage of your convictions and don’t just pick on women and children.

So you will only bully people you don't see as a danger to you. How very brave of you. And you won't bother to contact your MO, don't whinge if it doesn't go your way.
You are nothing but a nasty bully, I hope you get what you deserve

Same as Nicknacky you'd get a mouthful from me if you decided to "call me out."

My 3.5 wears them in shops and at the hospital and drs.

My 4 year old loves wearing his spiderman cloth one

Mine too! Faffs about with it relentlessly though, rendering it mostly useless. Looks cute though! And he complimented an adult on their spiderman cloth mask in the supermarket

It will be interesting to see the full government information about face coverings in shops which comes out tomorrow.

Nope. Under 3's are not supposed to wear them. My DD has not long turned three. She has one but its doesn't stay on long. Was handy when we need to take her to the doctors, but other than that we are not forcing it. We are following all other precautions and lots of hand washing.
For those asking, Vista Print apparently do good kids ones.

No no no @commentatorz , you can’t apply double standards in this way.
You can’t say that parents not masking young children is entitled, and then not acknowledge your own sense of entitlement in saying that single parents shouldn’t shop with unmasked children, then listing means by which it could be avoided- means which many will have no recourse to.

The sense of entitlement here actually is mostly within you- believing YOUR preferences are paramount. Have a look at yourself and see if you can’t find some compassion for families, most of whom are doing their best, and none of whom are likely to do any harm by not masking young children.

"No no no @commentatorz , you can’t apply double standards in this way."

That poster has different views on different threads so doesn't appear to have any conviction in what they are saying and is trying to get a rise out of people.