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Will Covid ever just f### off?

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mummabear1967 · 17/07/2020 01:03

4 months of this bullshit already. I know I speak for everyone in the entire world when I say I’m fed up and just want complete normality back again.

I know this is all very uncertain and nobody will know what will happen, but they keep saying be prepared in case there is a second wave and that we need to be vigilant until there is a vaccine.

I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not sure I can live like this forever. They keep using the terms “the foreseeable future” and “the new normal” well I don’t want a new normal, I want normal back as it was before Covid.

What will we do if they can’t find a vaccine? Will we just live our lives stuck between lockdown and coming out of lockdown forever in case there are more peaks in infections?

I know Covid-19 is more than likely going to circulate like cold and flu does and there’s nothing we can do about that, but surely all this uncertainty and being restricted on what we can and can’t do will end? How can we actually social distance forever?

I just want them to say that lockdown is over and that the pandemic is now over

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Waiting42021 · 17/07/2020 14:38

It’s awful isn’t it. Swinging from days of hope and excitement for the future to days of complete despair and hopelessness.

Things will return to ‘normal’ at some point though. We are so much more advanced now than we have been during other pandemics (although sometimes it may not feel that way)!

As PP have said, we will learn to live alongside this. We will become more immune, or a treatment or vaccine will be approved. It’s the uncertainty of not knowing when that makes this whole situation so unbearable.

NotIncandescentWithRage · 17/07/2020 14:42

I do kinda wonder (often) about what things will be like in 1/2/5/10 years etc and will we be ‘normal’ again in a decade, if we’ll still need face coverings in 5 years... you know, those kinds of wonderings.

But, yeh I don’t want a “new normal” either.

diplodocusinermine · 17/07/2020 14:53

I'm sick of the incompetence of the populist government, but believe there are some experts who really do know what they're taking about.

There are some glimmers of hope - there was a really good piece yesterday afternoon on Radio 4's PM about UV light killing viruses (inc Covid 19), they have worked out how to make lights that are safe for people to live/work with and have already gone into production - just imagine if a light in a hospital ward or office/restaurant/school/cinema could kill the virus stone dead. It's well woth a listen.

EloiseTheFirst · 17/07/2020 15:05

My GP friend said her son is involved with clinical trials of the vaccine at the moment. They expect it to be rolled out to the public early next year so by summer next year it should all be over.

okiedokieme · 17/07/2020 15:14

In a way it is, it's definitely not as deadly as first thought, there's sadly been many deaths but most were elderly and life limited people. The government is talking about getting back to normal. It's baby steps but there's even some anecdotal evidence it's getting milder

labyrinthloafer · 17/07/2020 16:09

@okiedokieme

Please don't diminish the importance of the deaths of those people in this way. Many would have lived much longer and ALL would have had dignified deaths, proper goodbyes and funerals in normal times.

The word 'but' implies those deaths matter less because of the age or conditions. I have friends who lost people, they don't think it was a 'but' situation!

tobee · 17/07/2020 23:46

I found it really frustrating the other day when
Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus finished chairing his WHO meeting by saying "it's going to get much worse" and then fucking off!! I felt like someone should have shouted "hang on! Ok, it's going to get worse but could you at least explain exactly what you mean? Why you say that?" Not just go and leave us all even more in the dark!

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mummabear1967 · 18/07/2020 12:47

What’s this about Boris Johnson saying we will be back to normal by the end of the year?

Anyone else believe we will be fully out of lockdown by Christmas?

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OpheliasCrayon · 18/07/2020 13:25

I doubt it

feelingverylazytoday · 18/07/2020 13:26

@mummabear1967

What’s this about Boris Johnson saying we will be back to normal by the end of the year?

Anyone else believe we will be fully out of lockdown by Christmas?

I think we'll be out of lockdown, though still being encouraged to be careful. I have every confidence in the Oxford and Imperial vaccines being succesful, in addition to further developments in treatments. Having said that, the public will still have a role to play in keeping the virus at bay.

annabel85 · 18/07/2020 13:35

I don't know whether you want to hear my view as I am in the 'doomster and gloomster' category but I have written off the next twelve months.
Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance indicated we need social distancing til June - and then see where we are.

I've written off the next 6-9 months. Winter will be a nightmare because it's not just Covid but all the other nasty viruses and illnesses that circulate and there's always a potential for a bad flu season. Sending everybody back to offices only to be sent home again for coughing. The government fear as well the NHS getting overwhelmed over winter.

By March-April time it'll have been a full year to get a better handle on the virus whether it's a vaccine or an anti-viral. Unless it's mutated to something worse or a second wave is peaking I think by next Spring things will be getting back to normal. We can't afford to write off another summer. The economy will be in tatters and people just won't put up with it for that long.

Witchend · 18/07/2020 13:44

there's sadly been many deaths but most were elderly and life limited people.

What do you understand by life limited?
Because I know 6 people who have died. Only two would have expected to die within the year-and even that wasn't certain. Neither of them before they caught Covid-19 were looking likely to die shortly, but were both very elderly and frail.
Out of the other 4, 3 had other complications, but would have expected to live another 10-20 years, or even longer, with what they had. Things like diabetes, that does put people vulnerable, but isn't a life sentence.
And the last was a 41yo PT instructor with nothing that could possibly indicated that they would have been vulnerable. They'd had a full health check fairly recently, spent several years in the army etc.

This is a subset of the people you've just dismissed as don't really matter if they die.

feelingverylazytoday · 18/07/2020 13:47

annabel part of the preparations is to run the biggest flu vax programme ever. This should help relieve some of the stress on the NHS, assuming the vaccine is an effective one.

Chaosreigns123 · 18/07/2020 14:01

Oh gosh I hear you op.

So many on here keep saying just deal with it, calling people snowflakes, or claiming to love lockdown/social distancing and so on.

But it really is shit. I hate new normal, old normal was just fine thanks. Old normal was freedom, choice.

I have just kind of accepted that we're in this for the long haul. Our government seems to have made a hash of it from the start and now we've only just got a grip on it. Even if we'd eliminated it, it's all over the world.

I've pretty much wrote off this next year as being anything like it might have been because even though technically we can do things. A lot of it will either feel risky or completely unenjoyable.

So I'll be picking and choosing, far less eating out and shopping, much more focus on outdoor activities. Try to make the best of things.

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mummabear1967 · 18/07/2020 14:04

@Chaosreigns123 yes absolutely it is absolute shit! I would just love to be able to go back to how life was in January - normal!

I live in hope that we will get it back one day!

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breadwidow · 18/07/2020 14:10

I hear you OP. I'm totally over it. And I'm even more over having a shite govt that will be rubbing salt into the COVID wound with no deal brexit. Unless something changes soon next year will be worse than this. I've got relatives in Australia. I've never wanted to live there but right now it's looking seriously attractive - their lives are all back to normal (they aren't in Melbourne) and I'm so fucking jealous

megletthesecond · 18/07/2020 14:11

I think even if the second wave is big we will at least be better prepared for it.

I hope things are fairly normal by early next summer. I've written off the next 10 months, it's easier to cope with pretty much rock bottom expectations.

MrsR87 · 18/07/2020 14:19

Totally agree OP! It’s easily enough for people to say just get one with it, and I think ordinarily I would. However, we managed to conceive in early Feb, so a few weeks before we had any indication of things to come and on some days it just really gets to me. I feel really isolated as I haven’t been able to meet other mums and as a first time mum I just want to get to know others in the same situation. I’m also worried about the impact this may have on the first year of my baby’s life is social distancing continues. I want him to be able to hug his relatives and my friends and meet people but also don’t want to feel guilty for putting him at risk.
Like I say I think I could just put up with it quietly if it were just me but I can feel my motherly protection kicking in.

crosseyedMary · 18/07/2020 14:24

My strategy will be to avoid getting the virus for as long as possible and do everything I can to maintain and improve my own health
I'm not particularly bothered about holidays or travel or socializing

Stellakent · 18/07/2020 14:29

I would say, apart from the fact that I've lost my job (and that's obviously a major change), life has gone back to a relative normal. I'm exercising, and planning to go swimming when the pool opens in a couple of weeks. I've met friends for lunch, sat in a pub garden, eaten in restaurants, been shopping. This week I went to a museum and visited some local gardens. I've visited family and sat in their gardens. Next month I'm going on holiday.

All of these things are doable at the moment and while community infection rates are low and the weather is good I'm grabbing the opportunity while we can. It could be a long winter.

A neighbour who is a doctor at a local hospital (I'm in London) told me that they have had no new Covid admissions for more than 2 weeks.

I'm still anxious about the situation and the future but trying to make the best of it while it's possible.

Chaosreigns123 · 18/07/2020 14:33

Stellakent do you have dc?

Absolutely not trying to be goady, but I feel like if I didn't have dc, this whole thing wouldn't be as difficult.

Older dc has been out of school since March, which is massive. Most of their out of school clubs haven't been able to resume.

I don't feel as though there'd be much enjoyment in going to the pub or for a meal with the dc right now.

Stellakent · 18/07/2020 14:44

Chaosreigns no I don't, and I know that it must be hugely difficult for those who have to look after children at this time, especially if trying to juggle work as well.

I have really struggled with lockdown as my world was turned upside down as my job has gone and I will have to do something different. I'm very anxious about the future and about money. So although my post may have seemed a bit 'Polyannaish' I think trying to be as normal as possible at the moment while I can is my way of managing my mental health for the future as I'm worried about how I'll cope with a future lockdown.

It's helping me for now, but I appreciate it wouldn't work for everyone. I think we all need to find our own way to cope with this awful time.

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mummabear1967 · 18/07/2020 15:03

@Stellakent aw that’s awful! So sorry to hear about your job - I really do hope that things work out for you very very soon!

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mummabear1967 · 18/07/2020 15:04

I certainly hope the next time there is a major global pandemic that I’m not around to experience it! Never once imagined we would ever experience this kind of thing

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Chaosreigns123 · 18/07/2020 15:07

Stellakent genuinely wasn't trying to be goady or deliberately pick out your post. I'm sorry you've lost your job too.

I wasn't meaning it in a way as it's alright for people without dc at all.

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