WTF are the rules now in England?

[coasterboaster]

My understanding- we can meet another household inside, or outside, but must stay 2m apart still. So no grandparents hugging grandchildren, no cousins playing next to each other.

Everyone I know- we can form 'bubbles' with anyone we like, and not distance any more with relatives.

Are we allowed to send our kids to play at another house? Are we allowed to send the kids to stay at Grandma's? Can we swap childcare days with another family, without trying to stay 2m apart (impossible)?

Genuinely, have I misunderstood? Am I keeping to an 'old' version of the guidelines? Or have we just given up? (I'm not moaning if it's the latter, I just don't know if I missed a memo.)

Stay alert mainly

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I sometimes take 3 or 4 days out from the news cycles and try to just get on with life. It ends when I am told I am doing something wrong and then go to check.

Google is your friend.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

Didn’t they bring in that grandchildren can hug your grandparents?

Not sure about indoors though - I thought we were all still distancing outside.

I’m like you, just can’t keep track now.

I think it’s basically a pile on, while being alert

So this "stay overnight away from your home with your own household or support bubble, or with members of one other household" - does this mean "stay overnight but stay 2m apart" or "stay overnight, and cuddle up watching a film"?

You can mix with up to six outside but only mix two households inside. How that applies to the pub is beyond me though. I think you’re only allowed to meet one other household but then another two households can sit at the next table?!

God knows.

"Didn’t they bring in that grandchildren can hug your grandparents?"

In Scotland I think. But I thought that wasn't the case in England. But who knows?!

Face masks mandatory in all shops whatever the size from 24th July just announced.

@coasterboaster

So this "stay overnight away from your home with your own household or support bubble, or with members of one other household" - does this mean "stay overnight but stay 2m apart" or "stay overnight, and cuddle up watching a film"?

If it's with members of another household then it means stay overnight but stay 2m apart (or 1m with mitigation)

No hugging In England unless in a support bubble. Can only have one support bubble. Think rules are different in Scotland.

Can mix with another another household and can even stay overnight but must social distance.

In pub can sit with another household if sat inside but must social distance, can sit with 6 other people from other households outside but again must social distance.

Rules in respect of masks in shops are changing from 24th July

Grandkids cannot hug grandparents unless the grandparent is a person living alone and no one in that bubble is following the shielding guidance.

That’s in England.

face covers indoors from July 20-something.
I can't keep track of rules du jour. Not sure why I should.
I try to avoid people bc I don't want to get on house arrest.

Can my children travel from England to Scotland to see their grandparents and hug them there?

You're right.

Bubbles are only with single person households or the term used to describe groups that can mix at school/nursery. Everyone I know keeps talking about it how they've 'bubbled up' with this household/group of friends etc though - people are just making their own rules.

I was wearing face coverings throughout lockdown for shopping etc but then stopped when the figures dropped to less than one in a thousand.
They’re bringing them in NOW?

...well not even now
In a week/10 days

Everyone I know keeps talking about it how they've 'bubbled up' with this household/group of friends etc though - people are just making their own rules.

This is it. People in 2 adult households keep telling me they've formed a bubble with basically their whole extended family!

I didn't think that was allowed yet, but would be happy to be shown wrong, and I'm behind the times. I'm not wanting to bitch about people doing it, so much as join them if it's allowed.

@SingingSands
Can my children travel from England to Scotland to see their grandparents and hug them there? confused

Only if they are aged 11 or under . They don’t need to socially distance outdoors or indoors now

Do what you want. But be alert. Wear a face mask and stay alert. Go to work and stay alert. Walk and cycle but also use public transport and stay alert. Go to the pub and don’t wear a face mask. But go shopping and wear a mask. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I tried really hard to fully stick to the guidelines during the height of the pandemic (as did most people) but I just cannot keep up with what’s allowed and not allowed now. It’s so confusing, especially since Wales and Scotland have their own rules which are reported in the news along with England’s rules. I don’t think people are deliberately breaking the rules I just think none of us know what they bloody are anymore.

@ComDummings 😂😂😂😂😂 yes that sounds about right. And get your beard trimmed, but don’t get your eyebrows threaded.

I went to the pub last week.. no social distancing, wasn't asked for details of my group, was inside as hadn't realised you were supposed to be outside... many people flirting outrageously and witnessed lots of snogging going on... quite shocking!