WTF are the rules now in England?

[coasterboaster]

My understanding- we can meet another household inside, or outside, but must stay 2m apart still. So no grandparents hugging grandchildren, no cousins playing next to each other.

Everyone I know- we can form 'bubbles' with anyone we like, and not distance any more with relatives.

Are we allowed to send our kids to play at another house? Are we allowed to send the kids to stay at Grandma's? Can we swap childcare days with another family, without trying to stay 2m apart (impossible)?

Genuinely, have I misunderstood? Am I keeping to an 'old' version of the guidelines? Or have we just given up? (I'm not moaning if it's the latter, I just don't know if I missed a memo.)

@Keepmeawayfromthebuffet
Bummer. They are 12 and 16!

We are going up to visit them in August. Haven't seen them since February.

As far as I know

• Masks compulsory on public transport (soon to be in shops too)

• Can meet another household and stay overnight (as in grandchild can stay overnight at grandparents)

• Social distancing still in place when outside (even though every other fucker seems to have given up!)

Can meet in groups of up to 10 outside but no more than a mix of 2 households? Could be wrong, might need correcting on that

"Didn’t they bring in that grandchildren can hug your grandparents?"
In Scotland I think. But I thought that wasn't the case in England. But who knows?!

Grandparents can hug their grandchildren if they're single, widowed, living alone and part of your "bubble."
The other grandparents when there's two and live together, not supposed to be hugging and still social distancing.
But can stay overnight.
Not sure how that is enforced really, I suppose it works on common sense in which case we're screwed lol

I have no idea anymore. I know I could look it up but I don't give enough of a toss to bother.

@formerbabe

Stay alert mainly

Are we allowed to sleep?

The bit I don’t get is - can meet up to 6 people outside as long as socially distanced. But no mass gatherings over 30 people.
It’s like a direct contradiction and people are just using that rule as an excuse for a big garden party 🤷🏼‍♀️
I don’t get it 🤦🏼‍♀️

@mammyloveswine are you emgland ? Or elsewhere in uk as in england you can sit in pub
I went last week bit contact details were taken , table service only and limited time allowed all run very efficiently

@puffy i wondered with group of 30 but is that because they are allowing small weddings now ? Or maybe religious reasons have churches been allowed to open ?? Just guessing bit maybe this could be why

I have no idea what the rules are. Someone from work was on a call yesterday rabbiting on about how they've "bubbled up",

I have zero clue on what they are talking about and now care even less about what the rules/guidance or whatever else they are calling them are.

I genuinely have no clue what the rules are now. There’s so much conflicting information. I’m using a common sense approach.

The rules actually aren’t difficult.
If you live alone or only with children you can be in a bubble with one other household. You and they when together don’t need to social distance.
Everyone else has to socially distance from anyone you don’t live with, wherever you are, at work/home/shop/park whatever.
Only 6 allowed to meet outside, inside 2 households at a time only, this is not a ‘bubble’ as you can meet as many other households just not at the same time.

The gatherings of 30 are for particular occasions weddings and funerals.

The rules actually aren’t difficult

They obviously are. If "the rules" were easy to understand, and carry out, everyone would actually be following them.

Not forming multiple "bubbles" each weekend.

These bubbles - do people realise that if anyone in their ginormobubble has symptoms they all need to quarantine?

I doubt it. Because it says household, not bubbles.

Also worth noting that a lot of it is now "guidance" and not "law" which is a change but seems not to have been widely reported.