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School from September

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16943389ao · 02/07/2020 11:54

What are your thoughts on the newly released information on schools returning in September? I agree that children need an education but can’t understand why other than putting the children into class sized bubbles that no other major precautions are being taken. There are no other circumstances where groups of 35 can mix without social distancing or PPE. So why is this ok for schools? I know we keep getting told that children aren’t too badly effected but they can obviously spread COVID-19 and the school in Leicester have all been closed down for this reason. I can’t help but feel cases will rise hugely putting everyone at risk.

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noblegiraffe · 03/07/2020 14:54

It’s clear what isn’t a priority for the government:

Feeding disadvantaged kids
Providing equipment so that disadvantaged kids can access educational resources
Opening schools safely by giving schools extra money for necessary equipment like extra cleaning products, or masks as mandated in other similar work environments
Coming up with timely planning and guidelines
Consulting with unions and heads to make sure any plans are actually feasible (see opening primaries to all kids by the summer)
Telling the truth

What they are prioritising:
Golf courses
Pubs
Cleaners

cardibach · 03/07/2020 15:04

@pipnchops

The teacher plans the lesson as normal, sends lesson plan to parents at home (or pupils of they're old enough). Then during the lesson the teacher has a camera them during the class that children at home can watch with parent alongside to help if necessary. No extra work for the teacher.
The planning I do for a lesson for me to teach after 30 years’ experience would not make sense to anyone else. And as others have said, I’m not prepared to be filmed for parents to watch.
Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 03/07/2020 16:08

Spot on noble but I'd add 'making money for their friends in the 1%' to the 'prioritising' list. E.g. test and trace fiasco.

It's not about people who want to open schools and those who don't, it's about doing a proper risk assessment and determining risk reduction measures which are adequate for the children and teachers to return. They've got the whole summer to plan and get things in place, there is no reason, none, that this couldn't be done.

These have been done in well run countries (the ones where there are fewer deaths and where the economy isn't suffering as much) and there are a number of measures they've put in place BEFORE schools opened - test and trace, masks (either all the time or in corridors and and playtime) social distancing, blended learning, sufficient soap.

Our Government appears to have looked at the issue briefly, decided following the science or doing a risk assessment is too much like hard work and decided to go back to normal, wash hands and cross their fingers. But washing hands didn't work out that well for Boris did it?

They're not going to give schools any extra money (despite pissing millions up the wall on the failed test and trace apps their mates are profiting off as well as giving multimillion pound contracts to tiny pest control companies - and of course bailing out the banks a while back).

I guess ensuring that schools have resources for a bit of social distancing, masks and sufficient handwashing equipment is just too hard and it doesn't profit them and their friends so, frankly, stuff it. The private schools (where their kids are) will be ok, they can follow the sensible guidelines in other countries as they've got the money and space.

We need to hold our government to account, however much we desperately want schools open. How is it that our self-respect has got so low - that we're willing to accept something so clearly rubbish for all of us? That will so obviously result, sooner or later, in another lockdown (individual schools or whole towns)?

No-one is saying don't open the schools, what they're saying is that the government is failing to provide what the schools need to open. Because they are.

MarshaBradyo · 03/07/2020 16:11

We’ve already received a very good email from the school. Quick, direct and very well communicated. I feel pleased and think very highly of the school atm.

oldbagface · 03/07/2020 16:19

@MilesJuppIsMyBitch exactly.

ohthegoats · 03/07/2020 16:26

It's not about people who want to open schools and those who don't, it's about doing a proper risk assessment and determining risk reduction measures which are adequate for the children and teachers to return.

Yep, all this lazy cowardly teachers/obstructive union stuff was to detract from their failure to make conditions safe. Rather than force people into unsafe/unknown working conditions.

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 03/07/2020 16:45

MRex yes, I see you.

Kitcat122 · 03/07/2020 19:11

It's sad so many people are at each others throats on here. Especially regarding schools opening. I don't know one single teacher or TA that doesn't want school back for our pupils and also our own children. We are just saying we don't feel it is safe or fair to have no safety measures in place. Staff can work between bubbles so let's face it bubbles are not for safety they are to prevent whole school closures. Only partial closures of bubbles. No PPE its unfair for us not to have a say in how we work.

16943389ao · 03/07/2020 21:51

**It's not about people who want to open schools and those who don't, it's about doing a proper risk assessment and determining risk reduction measures which are adequate for the children and teachers to return. They've got the whole summer to plan and get things in place, there is no reason, none, that this couldn't be done.

Couldn’t agree with the above more! I think we all want our children to get an education but also for it to be as safe as possible for staff and students. It just needs time, energy and resources to come up with a workable but safer plan. It’s not being pro or anti our children getting back to education. As parents we should all be on the same team.

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