1 in 1700 has the virus

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How do you feel about this figure?

For me it makes a lot of my fears and concerns be about the virus feel redundant (I'm quite chill but also cautious).

It also makes me feel like some people's reactions are now OTT.

Surely this is now a similar figure to people to have a cold? Or chicken pox? Or cold sores? (I have no idea but just an observation)

It kind of makes the fact it's still illegal to go in someone else's house a bit mind boggling as well.

I'm in England.

In my area they've had 3 new cases in the last 7 days.

So around 2 per 200,000

No deaths in over a week.

Kids hanging around in groups in the street- but can't go to school. It's ridiculous.

The vast majority of those people aren't put in public, either. Most of the ones who are are past the infectious stage or asymptomatic and tending not to cough all over people.

So while I wouldn't want to cram into a hot room with 1700 or even 170 people, right now, I'm past caring about momentarily being "too close" to someone.

I work in a school, the Director of Public Health for our region (rural) put the figure at getting close to 1 in 3000.

There is still no cure for coved, it is highly contagious and people can die. You can’t compare.

Isn’t that the same as flu though? You can compare. And we do have drugs that can treat the symptoms more effectively now.

The number is quite low.

But the risks to people of this virus are greater than others circulating.

Plus it's the super spreader environments. We are learning more which means we can keep easing lockdown.

But the realistic flip side is if we just went back to normal we'd be back where we were.

Isn’t that the same as flu though? You can compare. And we do have drugs that can treat the symptoms more effectively now.

There's a vaccine for flu which most vulnerable people will have each year.

I stand by my 'flippant' OTT comment TBH. I do think some reactions and stances are not proportionate to the threat that figure seems to present. Obviously each to their own but I did ask for people's thoughts on the matter. Those are mine.

I feel like we should be ok as long as no mass events. That's where spikes seem to happen in other countries. We have to be prepared for cases to ebb and flow but our economy and mental health needs to be taken as seriously now.

I think these habits we've picked up will last a while but definitely winter will bring new challenges. We're not going to eradicate the virus I don't think so it's about managing it until there is a vaccine or beyond. This figure seems like that should be possible to do that!

One thing I'm hoping is that this will change long term people's thoughts about illness and 'pushing through'. I used to be one who would go to work with a cold because it would be looked upon poorly if I took a day off 'just' for a cold. I'm thinking (hoping!) this will change and if you are sick you isolate at home.

The fact people are still going out with Covid symptoms... honestly the mind boggles on that one.

The chicken packing factory isn't a mass event. It s a workplace.

@Pixxie7 I can't say I agree. People can die from lots of illnesses. The common cold is a coronavirus and is extremely infectious. We've built up herd immunity now but there is evidence to suggest it was deadly historically (especially when introduced to populations with no little to no immunity). The only human infectious disease we have ever completely eradicated is smallpox.

We do have to compare to get some perspective.

I'm hoping some people will start washing their hands more and be more responsible for their own hygiene and how it affects others.

The chicken factory is a really good example of why vulnerable and extremely vulnerable people shouldn't be going back to work yet.

@embracelife quite.

But the factory has a capacity of 1500 odd and BBC news article said that adhering to social distancing was "virtually impossible" and there had been concerns from staff raised.

Not really a standard workplace.

Those quoting Germany, it's a mass outbreak in a factory infecting 1500 people. Whilst that's horrific, and clearly shows something went wrong in the safety measures (it seems the owner has failed to comply), the authorities have jumped to work to contain it and stop it spreading amongst the local population further.

Sigh, that took so long to post, you'd all talked about it!

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The fact people are still going out with Covid symptoms... honestly the mind boggles on that one.

Yes, I agree with you. But only because the government are saying that Covid symptoms are a high temp, dry, persistent cough and loss of taste/smell.

But, and here's my point, according to Dido Harding, at least 70% of people are asymptomatic, or have very minor symptoms. Also, as you will see if you trawl through the threads some people test positive with other symptoms other than those listed above.

So, I think that people who are unwell, without the ticking the check list for getting a test, are being encouraged to go out and about, and might be, through no fault of their own, spreading a virus. A virus that to them is at best nothing more than feeling a bit under weather, but to those who are vulnerable, lethal.

So, as I posted on another thread, an HCA friend tested positive. Her symptoms were a dodgy tummy, no temp, cough, or loss of taste and smell. She just felt a bit tired, and off. It was suggested that she had a test because of her job, and routine testing.

How many others, like her, would brush it off, and just carry on?

That's how it spreads. That's why we shouldn't be too complacent.

According to my zoe app the infection rates in my area is 0.4%, up from 0.3%. I make that just under 1 in 200. I've had two tests, both negative, as I reported on two occasions I didn't feel well.

So 305,000 ppl have had the virus out of a population of nearly 98 million. Or 93% of the uk population have NOT had it. Perspective.

3000 people in my office.

So that is two cv19 today, four tomorrow, eight the next day, how long for everyone to get it?

I'm all for relaxing the lockdown. But we can't take our eyes off the ball.

We're at .4 according to the Zoe app and our neighbouring town is at .7. It down a long way even from a few weeks ago when it kept toggling up to 1.1 but, even so, it's still a long way from 1 in 1700.

I don't mean to be rude but these threads are pretty stupid. Yes of course that's a small number but the problem is, left unchecked, in a few weeks its a large number in two months it's an astronomical number.

Ffs does nobody understand this?!

it's a counterpoint to all the threads/posts where people worry about contracting coronavirus simply by driving a car behind another car, or going through a gate in a field, or catching someone give you the evil eye in the supermarket because you reached past them to get some milk...

Back in March or perhaps February, there was just 1 in 66m infections.

Yet in less than 4 months and with a lockdown, we have 64k deaths.

All the numbers are heading in the right direction, is that because the virus has done its worse? or is it a combination of lockdown and summer?

All for easing restrictions but i think we in the UK are ill equipped to deal with localised outbreaks.

Scientists for Devi Sridhar are pushing for the U.K. to keep a tight reign on things and try to eliminate within our borders. Not sure how viable that is when so many parts of the world are seeing a huge rise in cases, AND our quarantine procedure is so lax as to be basically useless.

1 in 1700 while things are locked down.