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Allinadaystwerk · 20/06/2020 00:08

Not sure how I feel about having this download on my phone without my permission. How about you?

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Pinkyyy · 20/06/2020 08:51

I think it's more the fact that people are upset about something when they don't even know what it is.

Purplephonecover · 20/06/2020 08:53

It’s been added to my smart TV, I downloaded it to my iPhone. Not registered it yet though

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/06/2020 08:54

@BertieBotts

I live in Germany, we have an app, no system setting (as discussed in OP).

It assigns you a random ID. This isn't traceable to you as the app doesn't take any of your personal data (name, google ID, etc) however I believe the random ID (just a string of letters) is "tied" in their system to your device ID. However this is kept private.

At all times (if bluetooth is on) your phone will send out little "pings" via bluetooth consisting only of the random ID you've been assigned. Essentially it's a digital signal saying "BertieBotts woz ere" but without actually saying who you are.

When your phone encounters one of these "pings" from another device using the app, it stores the ID number on your phone in a "short term" list. If it receives another "ping" signifying you've been in contact with this person for at least 15 minutes, it stores that ID in a "long term" list. After 2 weeks, the long term list IDs are deleted. I'm not sure how long the short term ones are kept for.

If at any point you get a Coronavirus test which is positive, you can scan a QR code on the results which tells the app you have a legitimate positive test result. If you don't want to use QR/can't/the lab that tested you didn't give you one, you phone a helpline and get a pin code to again verify that this is a real result and not just you messing around.

After this result the app looks at all the random IDs of people which are stored in your long-term list on your phone (which will be less than 2 weeks old) and sends a message to the central database: Notify these users that someone they have been in contact with has coronavirus. The central database doesn't get your 2-week list at any other time. It doesn't store that you've had a positive result. And even if it did, it wouldn't be linked to your name.

If you're on someone's two week list and they test positive, you'll get a notification saying this. You can then self isolate as a precaution, and get access to testing if you develop symptoms (I think).

Thank you Bertie

What is like to know is why the fuck the U.K. can’t just use this system. Why the need to create their own? Our one is a massive failure as it doesn’t work on iPhone.

LovingLen · 20/06/2020 08:56

You don't have to update your phone if you don't want to, some people didn't want to update the latest iOS because it stops you jailbreaking the phone, the choice is yours whether to update it. Always best to check what an update does anyway before updating.

DancingWithTheDevil · 20/06/2020 08:58

@Eskaa

Everyone is saying it’s part of the new update but I’ve not updated my phone in ages and it’s there on mine!
That's weird! It definitely wasn't there before I update the latest this morning as was straight afterwards!
iVampire · 20/06/2020 08:58

If people with iPhones do not want their phones to automatically update software, they need to go into settings>general> software updates and turn off the automatic updates option

But do check carefully when deciding not to update because you need to decide about other issues - a recent one patched a vulnerability to prevent a certain style of jail breaking - not because Apple cared about jail breaking per se bit because it gave scope for other types of hacking

tubbatops · 20/06/2020 09:00

I always have bluetooth & location settings off so I assume I need to turn them on now

TuckMyWin · 20/06/2020 09:01

Dear god. It's just a software update to enable apps to work properly with your phone IF you download them. If you don't want software updates then turn off automatic download, but then don't expect to get any bug fixes either.

GenerateUsername · 20/06/2020 09:03

What is like to know is why the fuck the U.K. can’t just use this system. Why the need to create their own?

But it will be world-beating! Look how well the residency app worked out!

DeadButDelicious · 20/06/2020 09:05

It's on my phone. I assume it was part of the updates that come through from time to time, there was one last week I think.

Its there to enable any track and trace app we eventually get to work which let's face it may never happen.

fififorgetmenotforgot68 · 20/06/2020 09:07

Yup, its on my Samsung phone...The last couple of weeks my phone comes up with "Samsung App" not working...It makes sence if this as been added to my phone is it taking some of my storage ? If they can add this what else can they add ?

BertieBotts · 20/06/2020 09:09

I am not sure. But there are plenty of Germans suspicious of the app and refuse to use it!

BertieBotts · 20/06/2020 09:16

It's a setting, so it doesn't take up storage space. Samsung are in general terrible at managing their storage space, though. You need to get a third party cleaner app to clean out the old update data. "Samsung Apps" is the Samsung App store, and nothing to do with storage or the Covid setting.

Youngatheart00 · 20/06/2020 09:18

Wow “COVID 19 Exposure Logging” - there it is.

BertieBotts · 20/06/2020 09:18

@tubbatops

I always have bluetooth & location settings off so I assume I need to turn them on now
Only if/when you download the app. And only bluetooth, not location, assuming it will work like it does in other countries.
Lulu1919 · 20/06/2020 09:21

On mine but off ?????

Babs709 · 20/06/2020 09:21

Can’t quite believe anyone with a smart phone would think they had any privacy anyway.

CucumberTree · 20/06/2020 09:22

Has everyone here Every time they’ve updated their phone actually read the agreement before they clicked agree? If not that’s why it’s there without your knowledge.

I’m fine with it, if they wanted to track me they could anyway unless I got rid of my smart phone.

midsomermurderess · 20/06/2020 09:28

Blimey, Twitter eh. 3,2,1, boom it's here.

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 20/06/2020 09:29

If you want schools to return etc etc this is what it looks like.

roses2 · 20/06/2020 09:31

Holy cow it's on mine too, what an invasion of privacy. I'll start leaving my phone at home when I go out then.

dementedpixie · 20/06/2020 09:31

How does it invade your privacy if you need an app and to turn it on to make it work??

Iwantacookie · 20/06/2020 09:31

It's on mine. I'm worried because I've got that many apps on my phone that my phone decides it NEEDS and wont let me delete is this going the way to be another one I cant delete?
That's my concern about it.

dementedpixie · 20/06/2020 09:32

its not an app.

slipperywhensparticus · 20/06/2020 09:33

I didn't update my phone but it's there and it wasn't before my phone went to shit this week I had to reset my phone losing loads of photos etc and it's now in my phone if they had asked I would have been fine with it

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