Every child in every year group will return to school in September, Education Secretary Gavin Williamson has said.

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I didn't catch the briefing but read the above comment in the news. The big question is, did he say whether children returning would be part-time or full time? Or did he just gloss over that bit?

Ha, indeed. Can't even leave one child alone in a room I find. Not that I would. Because we're not allowed to do that.

So it looks like social distancing will go down to 1M.

But not in schools. Because it's inconvenient.

Good luck with that one, Johnson.

Either 1m for all or no one.

Hmm, i will believe it when i see it. I found a job as a SEN TA that i thought would be good experience for my PGCE but when i was talking about it with my year 11 son he said this " your dilusional" when i asked if he thought his five year sister would be in school in September.

Without a guarantee my children have full time education and some possible wrap around care, life remains on hold

Teachers can't go back properly without wraparound care either.

I work in a very nice school. Still not allowed to leave kids unsupervised, unless we write off all the health and safety rules. Maybe we could get parents to sign some legal disclaimer before their kids come back

@ohthegoats

Teachers can't go back properly without wraparound care either.

Yes, two teacher family here. Having to start late and leave early between us at the moment which is not possible long term. No afternoon TA planned for September who could cover me.

@hedgehogger1

I work in a very nice school. Still not allowed to leave kids unsupervised, unless we write off all the health and safety rules. Maybe we could get parents to sign some legal disclaimer before their kids come back

I think the issue with that would be parents would think there child won't do anything and so sign it. Then there would be complaints when said child falls off a desk and breaks their arm, etc.

There is in the gov. guidance information about moving children to other schools temporarily.
It won't be suitable in all cases but I have a few teachers who are taking their own children to the school they teach at ( where there are places) so that they can teach/lead without the dash to another school to collect at the end of the day.

A couple of people asked about lunch time in a high school and I think packed lunches eaten in the bubbles classroom would be the only way. They could be brought in by pupils or supplied by the canteen with a very limited choice.
I think A levels might have to be taught mainly over technology as universities are doing with degree subjects.

I imagine wrap around care will be back in September. If playschemes are going ahead this summer, why wouldn't they be?

All of the summer play schemes that usually occur around here have already been cancelled.

I think if primary schools are back in class sized bubbles, in September as the chosen replacement for SD, wraparound care cannot start up as it will mix too many bubbles.

I don’t think wraparound care in primaries will be starting up again until other forms of missing-things like assemblies/setting/clubs-are all fine to go ahead.

I don’t think wraparound care in primaries will be starting up again until other forms of missing-things like assemblies/setting/clubs-are all fine to go ahead.

Yerp. No play schemes or holiday clubs here. Yet.

I don’t think wraparound care in primaries will be starting up again until other forms of missing-things like assemblies/setting/clubs-are all fine to go ahead

Why wouldn't be clubs be fine to go ahead if they can distance within them? I'm thinking outdoor ones admittedly but I'm sure some will be able to run.

Wrap around is more important than assemblies and a bizzarre comparison to make!

Not bizarre at all.

If the children are staying in their class bubble all day, anything that mixes those bubbles-assembly, wraparound care, phonic groups etc-will be aN added transmission risk

I don’t think wraparound care will be starting up whilst bubbles are still a thing in school, no matter how much people would like it to.

Well yes but wraparound surely much less of a risk than a whole school assembly?!

Tbh assemblies would be the absolute last thing I'd reintroduce.

And wrap around is not about people "liking it to" but upthread its mentioned lots of teachers need it. There is an actual need for it.

Wraparound care won’t be able to start until the bubble system is ditched.

And wrap around is not about people "liking it to" but upthread its mentioned lots of teachers need it. There is an actual need for it.

But it won’t be happening whilst classes need to remain in their bubble, and not mixing with other children.

When the government decide bubbles are not important, then I’m sure wraparound care can resume.

@Porcupineinwaiting

Sorry some of you teach in schools where classes cant be left unattended for 10 minutes. Not a problem in all (I would hope most) secondaries.

🤣🤣🤣 I’ve worked in very different schools including a super selective school which would be considered full of ‘nice’ children. They still would not have been ok left alone for 10 minutes. Teenagers in a group are not the most sensible!

@EasterBuns

A couple of people asked about lunch time in a high school and I think packed lunches eaten in the bubbles classroom would be the only way. They could be brought in by pupils or supplied by the canteen with a very limited choice. I think A levels might have to be taught mainly over technology as universities are doing with degree subjects.

That could possibly work although means that the high proportion of students at my school with FSM won’t get a hot meal at all. Currently by eating in our canteen they get one hot meal five days a week.

Also who will be supervising them at lunchtime? Will they not be allowed outside all day?

@MsJaneAusten

Wraparound care won’t be able to start until the bubble system is ditched.

Considering lots of kids will be picked up by childminders, family members, other children's parents...... What difference does it make?

In fact all the children who would usually attend after school club will be spread about in all different settings instead of one which is counter productive really.

So can I ask what you do with the kids during breaks and lunch when it's raining MrsHerculePoirot? At dcs' secondary they have access to classroom space over breaks and lunch in wet weather and, although there are staff around, there isnt a teacher sat in each classroom.

Some schools are allowing wraparound care with external providers at the moment? Is this not allowed / illegal then? Should it be reported?

@Porcupineinwaiting

So can I ask what you do with the kids during breaks and lunch when it's raining MrsHerculePoirot? At dcs' secondary they have access to classroom space over breaks and lunch in wet weather and, although there are staff around, there isnt a teacher sat in each classroom.

They pack into the canteens standing room only like sardines. Or get wet as no teenager seems to own a coat. Or a couple of rooms will be opened and the duty staff will man them but they are only allowed to eat in the canteens.

Yeah, I've worked in the two most sought after schools in my county. You still wouldn't leave a class of students alone for more than 30 seconds.