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Scotland Phase 2

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Plump82 · 18/06/2020 13:35

Anyone disappointed? I am. Not sure why as i dont really know what I expected. I think the 5 mile rule thing got to me as we dont live near anyone we can visit so actually nothing has changed at all. Had a wee cry after i heard it.

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Judystilldreamsofhorses · 18/06/2020 13:36

No changes for me - as long as toilets remain closed I feel like I am stuck at home!

puffinkoala · 18/06/2020 13:42

I've just read the new rules - why is the 5 mile rule still in place for things like visiting zoos? That's silly. Especially in Scotland where a lot of people live a long way from other places.

Why have the Scots and Welsh authorities got this 5 mile rule bee in their bonnet?

Flowers it must be really rubbish. I've actually not travelled more than about 5 miles since March but it's good to know I have the option!

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Plump82 · 18/06/2020 13:50

I honestly think the changes shes made could have been lumped in with Phase one

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pobparker · 18/06/2020 13:52

So fed up with it all
it is more like phase 1.25
The 5 mile rule is ridiculous - Edinburgh zoo and the Highland wildlife park are saying they are on the brink- they are not going to survive if everyone heeds this 5 mile thing - I expect most people will ignore it however

We seem to have one of longest lock down in the world just now -
Yet there were only 21 new cases and only 11 people in intensive care yesterday - really worried about the Scottish economy-

Belindabelle · 18/06/2020 13:53

I am a bit disappointed too. We are desperate to go to our second home. Not for a holiday, just for the day, to collect the mail, cut the grass, weed the garden etc. We also have sports equipment and seasonal clothes stored there that I would like to get.

No desire to visit the zoo or a garden. Don’t think there is an outdoor market within 5 miles of me either.

sleepyhead · 18/06/2020 13:54

I'm pleased about the change to going inside to use someone's toilet - it means I can visit my parents this weekend.

As an added bonus, it'll give me a new five miles to "take my leisure" in, as after having a cup of tea in the garden I'm hoping we can go for a walk near where they stay which is much prettier than where I stay!

I had hoped for being able to meet inside though which would have made it less weather dependent. Luckily Saturday looks dry.

Even a 5 mile extension on the distance for exercise rule would make a huge difference. I really just want to go for a walk in the countryside.

sleepyhead · 18/06/2020 13:56

Actually, I'd love to see the sea. I really crave that.

MsPavlichenko · 18/06/2020 13:56

You can go further to visit friends and family. Was clarified. So you could, for example meet them at a zoo.

UnicornRainbow83 · 18/06/2020 14:06

The 5 mile rule doesn't apply to visiting people. It is acceptable to travel outside your local area to meet members of another household in an outdoor space such as a private garden.

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Plump82 · 18/06/2020 14:06

And now face masks are mandatory and i dont have one and chances are it won't arrive for when I'm next on public transport. Am i ok with a scarf?

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TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 18/06/2020 14:09

She said face coverings - scarf would be fine.

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Plump82 · 18/06/2020 14:48

Ah that's good. I didnt watch it as I was working so jusf catching snippets online

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Judystilldreamsofhorses · 18/06/2020 15:09

Yes, I thought we might be allowed to meet people inside with distance/hygiene. It's DP's birthday on Tuesday and I had planned to invite his mum round for tea and cake - it's bloody freezing here today, and drizzly, so even though we have a big garden I definitely wouldn't want to be sitting outside.

hilbil21 · 18/06/2020 15:13

If we wanted to join households with a single parent family 500 miles away, as long as neither us or them joined households with anyone else, is this allowed?

emmathedilemma · 18/06/2020 15:23

I'm starting to feel like we're being held hostage! As much as England had flaws in their plan, our rates/deaths are lower yet we're stuck with tougher restrictions.....and I know that the rates are lower are because of the restrictions but there must be parts of the country now where it's virtually eliminated. 2 deaths in 24 hours (and statistically half of those are in care homes) and 11 new cases according to the BBC website.
If we can visit family/friends more than 5 miles away and go indoors to use the toilet then at least that's one positive although it still hinders those who don't have a garden (which is a lot of people in cities).
I'd actually be intrigued to know if people outside of the big cities e.g. the more remote highlands and islands are still following any of the guidance or carrying more "as normal".
I don't know the answer to that one @hilbil21 it's always been a vague about crossing between England and Scotland too.

hilbil21 · 18/06/2020 15:28

@emmathedilemma it's annoying there's no hotline you can phone for an answer haha. Would hate to get to the border and be turned back Blush

Wewearpinkonwednesdays · 18/06/2020 15:30

I haven't been sticking to the 5 mile rule, and I certainly won't be now. I've got to travel more than 5 miles to get to the nearest supermarket. I've also been going to the beach (about 7 miles away) regularly and no one has stopped me, even although the police are there all the time. If the Safari park is open soon, I think we will go. That's a good hours drive.
I'm so sick of it. Driving 60 miles won't increase my risk anymore than driving 5 miles.

mylittlesandwich · 18/06/2020 15:46

@pobparker I haven't ignored a single restriction. I've followed all the damned rules but we are going to the zoo. Things are about to get quite stressful in our house as I start to work from home and DH either goes back to work or may even loose his job. We are having one family day out with DS. He's 7 months so probably can't even remember going out as a family. I've had it with the 5 mile rule, we don't need public transport and the zoo is outside.

Orangeblossom78 · 18/06/2020 15:57

My elderly mother lives up there and her bus has just been stopped. She has no way of getting anywhere. Really tricky

rozzyraspberry · 18/06/2020 16:06

I’m disappointed bubbles are restricted to single adult households. My dad cares for my mum who suffers from severe dementia and is extremely hard work. He needs the support as much as any single parent.
I’ve stuck to all rules so far but if the weather is bad I’ll be visiting them inside from now on I think.

jerometheturnipking · 18/06/2020 16:10

Phase 1.25 sounds about right. It's all bullshit. How many of our cases are actually community transmission?

Timeforanotherusername · 18/06/2020 16:10

I think she is risking people breaking the rules more.

There is being cautious and there is being Nicola cautious.

Its going to impact the Scottish economy even more than England potentially.

She is a much better communicator than Boris but I think he has done easing of lockdown better.

I also feel that its all political games with her at the moment.

mrs2468 · 18/06/2020 16:19

I am so disappointed. She knew pubs etc were looking hopefully to open this weekend. She could have said before today that it wouldn’t be happening. {not that I’m bothered about going) Surely this should be 1b. Phase 2 really is 29th June. I’m happy to be slow but what happened to the grown up conversations and communication.

emmathedilemma · 18/06/2020 16:25

@rozzyraspberry in such circumstances i think you need to use your gut feel and if he needs the support then merge your households. You can do it for care requirements which it sounds like he would fall under.

Kinneddar · 18/06/2020 16:57

It's DP's birthday on Tuesday and I had planned to invite his mum round for tea and cake

If she lives alone you can have her in the house though