Is coronavirus actually as bad as this claims? Surely we'd of heard more about that?

[YellowEllis]

I was finally becoming relatively relaxed, but I find this very alarming?

". The lack of empathy from some on this site is actually quite shocking."

I agree that people are lacking in empathy on here can be shocking. But I don't think it's fair to say that it's only the one side is lacking in empathy. People are also very scathing of posters who are worried for the jobs, lost their jobs, lost education for their children.

I am shielding my Dh who has many issues and have two parents in their 80s to worry about. But I don't lack empathy for people who are desperate for a haircut or missed out on a holiday coz, you know, I'm not an arse.

In severe cases yes. HTH.

My dad has started getting dizzy spells and his heart rate is low. He had Covid 19 in March. His gp reduced his BP meds which seemed to help for about a week but the same symptoms came back. Its possible my mum had it as well and she had radiotherapy for breast cancer recently and her BP was high. Her BP meds were increased and she's going to have a 24 BP monitor and holter monitor.

I'd have thought I'd didn't take much imagination to realise a disease that can affect the lungs can lead to permanent lung damage?

I know a few people that have had it (tested and confirmed). All were ill for a few days and fully recovered after a week.

Way up thread someone said patients are not being followed up. This isn't true. I'm a HCP and am currently carrying out post covid assessments on all patients who tested positive regardless if they were admitted to hospital or not. The assessment has been designed across trusts so it isn't just my trust
The assessment is very comprehensive and the patient will be referred onto appropriate teams if indicated. Rehab, S&L, MH, dietician and so on
Despite having numerous other conditions the patients I followed up all had few or no after effects from covid. Once all are completed we will have a better picture

Lurchermom, I'm hoping this kickstarts better treatment (medical and just in the way we're perceived) for those of us with CFS/ME.

Because "people having Covid" is a major national event, in a way that "people having glandular fever" or other viruses isn't, it won't be possible to quietly write off each individual separately and to accuse them of malingering (while concern-trolling them for "their psychosomatic issues" ).

Suddenly we may be part of a crowd for whom there is national pressure to find effective treatments, rather than just a desire to find better ways to shut us up.

DSis has it as bad as a flu so not serious enough to be hospitalised, super fit, no health conditions and has suffered with fatigue, chest pains and shortness of breath ever since.

@ThousandsAreSailing

Way up thread someone said patients are not being followed up. This isn't true. I'm a HCP and am currently carrying out post covid assessments on all patients who tested positive regardless if they were admitted to hospital or not. The assessment has been designed across trusts so it isn't just my trust The assessment is very comprehensive and the patient will be referred onto appropriate teams if indicated. Rehab, S&L, MH, dietician and so on Despite having numerous other conditions the patients I followed up all had few or no after effects from covid. Once all are completed we will have a better picture

It’s certainly true for my BIL. Hopefully your assessment team will be in touch with him as he’s had no follow up whatsoever and his GP hasn’t been helpful.

She works in ICU so of course she's seen the worst but you could then gave five people saying it's like a cold. So swings and roundabouts

I am 36, BMI of 20, healthy diet, don't drink or smoke, no underlying conditions, and was cycling 50 miles a week/weight-lifting 4 times a week before I got sick. Now in my 4th month. I've been signed off work for the last 15 weeks. Another woman in my workplace with a similar profile has also been off ill this long. Both her children have been sick for the same length of time.

@Redolent thank you for the screenshot. I have a congenital heart defect and I’m trying to find information on what that means for Covid. Pretty difficult to, as most of if is “we just don’t know”.

Here in the Isle of Man it is gone. We are back to normal.

We are starting random antibody trying of 1 in 8 of the population.

Should provide interesting and useful information for those of you in countries l battling and wondering how it spreads

@hopingtobedally

I'd have thought I'd didn't take much imagination to realise a disease that can affect the lungs can lead to permanent lung damage?

If a person has normal sats and a normal chest x-ray, the chance of a respiratory illness serious enough to cause camage is much less likely. If they’ve had a more serious course of the disease, then there is a higher risk but it’s not a given.

@SirVixofVixHall

The problem is that we don’t yet know whether people left with lasting damage will be in the minority. They may not be. We know very little about this virus, and what we think we know is still in flux. I have auto immune disease, so my immune system is already overreacting. My dc too. No-one seems to know how much this increases our risk of long term damage, because there is no way of knowing yet. Lockdown is lifting but people need to be extremely cautious, this is not a disease to take lightly, even for under 45s in currently great health.

I don’t know which sort of autoimmune disease you have but there’s some interesting new evidence that’s come to light to show we are at less risk than they initially thought. Some medications that were initially through to increase risk of Covid-19 complications actually may be a protective factor.

My electrican is fine .

[quote EarlGreywithLemon]@Redolent thank you for the screenshot. I have a congenital heart defect and I’m trying to find information on what that means for Covid. Pretty difficult to, as most of if is “we just don’t know”.[/quote]
You’re welcome! I have various covid-related screenshots of research pieces that I come across, just because there’s a lot of fuzzy stuff out there like you said. And because it’s easier to speak about this illness when you have concrete examples at hand.

Hope you’re faring OK in these times.

@ThousandsAreSailing

Way up thread someone said patients are not being followed up. This isn't true. I'm a HCP and am currently carrying out post covid assessments on all patients who tested positive regardless if they were admitted to hospital or not. The assessment has been designed across trusts so it isn't just my trust The assessment is very comprehensive and the patient will be referred onto appropriate teams if indicated. Rehab, S&L, MH, dietician and so on Despite having numerous other conditions the patients I followed up all had few or no after effects from covid. Once all are completed we will have a better picture

Not true for me. I've been briefly into hospital (ambulanced in but not admitted) twice. No follow up at all, and I've been ill since late March.

A while back I read a FB post from 'a nurse' who claimed that s/he had spent an entire shift hefting patients to the mortuary while dressed in full PPE. I was alarmed as I know someone who works in the hospital named so I looked up their stats a few days later, when they had time to be confirmed.

5 deaths. In the relevant week across the whole trust.

Don't believe everything you read on social media.

@redolent
Please stop comparing it to the flu. That comparison has been thoroughly rubbished. It’s a multi-system disorder more akin to syphilis, polio or HIV. Screenshot about some of its (cardiovascular) impacts in the European Heart Journal. There’s also evidence to suggest it can do long term damage to the kidneys and brain.
I know from previous discussions we've had that you find understanding problematic. I have never compared it to flu. And I have never suggested that some people have dire outcomes. Please refer to what I actually said instead of what you decided I said..

[quote Moondust001]@redolent
Please stop comparing it to the flu. That comparison has been thoroughly rubbished. It’s a multi-system disorder more akin to syphilis, polio or HIV. Screenshot about some of its (cardiovascular) impacts in the European Heart Journal. There’s also evidence to suggest it can do long term damage to the kidneys and brain.
I know from previous discussions we've had that you find understanding problematic. I have never compared it to flu. And I have never suggested that some people have dire outcomes. Please refer to what I actually said instead of what you decided I said..[/quote]
“Some people will have a bad outcome. Some people have bad outcomes from flu too.”

What are you talking about? You clearly used the flu as a direct, comparative point of reference. Your own words.

To be fair I don’t think Moondust001 did compare it to flu she just pointed out that it’s not the only illness that causes long-term issues in some people therefore not exclusive to this coronavirus.

I’m not medically trained but I know it’s common for a virus to cause other issues. I know in the past when I’ve had genuine influenza that I was fatigued for quite a while after.

Please read one of the threads on here: Covid week 8 plus plus. Many many people suffering and being offered no support by doctors etc. Many more forums with people with a whole catalogue of symptoms that won’t go away.
I’m 42, no health issues, normal, healthy person and I’ve had weeks of the scariest and odd symptoms I’ve had in my life. One day can be okay, the next days, horrendous. I’ve had every blood test going, heart monitoring, Ct head scan, neck x ray, all fine aside from slight arthritis has been found in my neck, very surprising and not had anything like that before.
I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy. I pray they can do something about this, it’s hard to carry on like this.

*Oddest symptoms

My entire family are medics. They feel the same way about the permanent damage Covid seems to be doing to many patients. The lung damage and long term repercussions are frightening and currently under researched.