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Original poster

So what are the bloody rules today?

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SouthWestmom · 10/06/2020 18:25

Mum just messaged to say I had to choose between her and pil.

Thought we could meet up with anyone as a six if we stayed apart.

Schools for Y10 and Y12 now not offering anything except an hour a week.

Someone can stay over?

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SqidgeBum · 10/06/2020 18:30

Anyone can meet up outside in a public place, or you can in their garden, maximum of 6 people.

You cant have people in your house (unless that has changed today with the single parents and adults living alone update. I havent looked into it).

You cannot have someone stay over.

EggysMom · 10/06/2020 18:31

AFAIK it's still you can do what you want so long as you channel your inner Dominic Cummings ...

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 10/06/2020 18:31

Coronavirus: Single people can stay the night with loved ones, PM says www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52998806

IncrediblySadToo · 10/06/2020 18:31

Outdoor social distanced meeting of up to 6 remains the same

SINGLE people can form a bubble with ONE other household and go in their house. (Only one family, not a succession of people)

It's designed to help SINGLE people cope with lockdown. Everyone has to isolate if anyone gets symptoms.

Zoo's, drive in cinemas open along with All
Other shops from Monday (with certain restrictions).

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 10/06/2020 18:33

I think we need to stop referring to single people as that might be confusing because some single people live with their parents. It is single people who live alone.

IncrediblySadToo · 10/06/2020 18:34

@SqidgeBum

Anyone can meet up outside in a public place, or you can in their garden, maximum of 6 people.

You cant have people in your house (unless that has changed today with the single parents and adults living alone update. I havent looked into it).

You cannot have someone stay over.

Best to read the link Tony posted, things have changed.
lifestooshort123 · 10/06/2020 18:34

I'm delighted with the support-bubble news, it means my daughter and grandson can come over and stay the night. It means I can go over to hers when she has to go into work. Yipeee!

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SouthWestmom · 10/06/2020 18:35

So my mum has my daughter back from uni (months now).

Can she come to us? (Family)

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Av0cetSi3sta · 10/06/2020 18:37

Does this include over 70s?

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 10/06/2020 18:38

@Noeuf no because your daughter is living with your mum so it's not a single adult household.

If your mum was living alone she could form a bubble with your household.

SillyBub · 10/06/2020 18:40

@Noeuf *So my mum has my daughter back from uni (months now).

Can she come to us? (Family)*

No, unless you are the lone adult in your house.

It's for people who live alone or are single parents with children under 18. They can form a bubble with one other household. Your mum and daughter (assuming over 18 as at uni) are a (minimum of) 2 person household and you say you're a family, so if that includes a DH/DP or any other adult, you can't form a bubble with your mum and daughter.

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SouthWestmom · 10/06/2020 18:51

Oh ok that makes it clearer. Doesn't hold any logic tbh. Mum is going slowly mad as dd has depression and is no company at all.

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SouthWestmom · 10/06/2020 18:52

Also quite annoying. Dd stays with her (round the corner) as ds has become very ill and needs her old room. If he wasn't ill she'd be here and mum could come round.

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HeadSpin5 · 10/06/2020 19:08

Re over 70’s - If they want to, I see no reason unless they’re shielding.

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SouthWestmom · 10/06/2020 19:20

I think over 70s are vulnerable not extremely vulnerable

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ginsparkles · 10/06/2020 19:23

This is the best news in months for us. My mum lives alone and is struggling so now she gets to be included in our household. We can visit each other's homes, and even stay the night. She will get to hug her granddaughter for the first time in 12 weeks ! She is in her 70's but not shielding.

twinnywinny14 · 10/06/2020 19:25

People who live alone or only with children(so no other adults) can mix with one household and not worry about the 2m advice

florriepeck · 10/06/2020 19:33

I'm still not clear re over 70's.
DM is 80, and in good health: she only lives a short walk from me, and I'd love to have her round for a meal.
We've stuck to the rules all the way.

PeanutButterKid · 10/06/2020 20:02

I thought your DD could move house. Not move every week, but she (the DD) sounds vulnerable & would be better with you so there is a reason not home changing casually. Then you can bubble with your MIL (or PILs, your choice).

byvirtue · 10/06/2020 20:06

Another pointless concession, what difference for example does it make for one single grand parent to form a bubble with a family yet two grandparents living together can’t form the same bubble. It’s fucking ridiculous but then I’ve given up following the rules now and just make my own risk assessment.

TerrapinStation · 10/06/2020 20:11

@byvirtue

Another pointless concession, what difference for example does it make for one single grand parent to form a bubble with a family yet two grandparents living together can’t form the same bubble. It’s fucking ridiculous but then I’ve given up following the rules now and just make my own risk assessment.
By that logic we could do away with any kind of restrictions then, all make our own rules up and end up with another 50000 dead, how is that sensible?
ineedaholidaynow · 10/06/2020 20:12

@florriepeck I don’t think there was an age limit, only shielding people were mentioned. I assume you have to make a risk assessment.

In theory we could make a support bubble with my DM, but she is late 80s with a heart condition. We can meet socially distanced but I am not sure I can currently take the risk of seeing her without social distancing. The guilt would be horrendous if she caught the virus from us.

Abbccc · 10/06/2020 20:16

@PeanutButterKid

I thought your DD could move house. Not move every week, but she (the DD) sounds vulnerable & would be better with you so there is a reason not home changing casually. Then you can bubble with your MIL (or PILs, your choice).
Can't bubble with PILs as there are two of them
Abbccc · 10/06/2020 20:17

@byvirtue

Another pointless concession, what difference for example does it make for one single grand parent to form a bubble with a family yet two grandparents living together can’t form the same bubble. It’s fucking ridiculous but then I’ve given up following the rules now and just make my own risk assessment.
But if you get ill will you expect hospital staff to look after you?
ineedaholidaynow · 10/06/2020 20:19

@byvirtue the purpose of this is that a single adult who lives with no other adults can have some adult company be it family, friend or partner.

So the grandparents living together have each other.

Also it is to minimise the risk. The risk is high for families to mix as there will be close contact, hugging etc. So the fewer adults mixing closely the better. If more people break the rules then the longer this lockdown will continue. Because they need the rate to get much lower before more families/friends can meet up without socially distancing.