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We need to rise up about the lack of education for our children

648 replies

Speeding201700 · 07/06/2020 09:54

Please do this. Please join the Twitter movement #usforthem
Please write to your MPs
Please talk about this.

Our children are missing out on their fundamental human right of an education.

The children of regular families are suffering (all 5 of mine are suffering desperately), but those in vulnerable families are suffering even further. The gap between these children will be HUGE

I am a teacher and a mother. I am ready to go back to work full time and with the 'old normal'. I am also type 1 diabetic.

Please help us rise up to get our children educated. Our children have been totally forgotten about. Throughout my career I've had it rammed down my throat about how school is a safe place for so many children. They don't care about these children now.

I am amazed so many people have just accepted this. It has gone on for too long now.

OP posts:
Sunnydays123456 · 08/06/2020 15:49

Yep seems so unfair that my y6 is back at school and my year 10 is languishing a home getting more and more demotivated

This gov need to come up with a bloody plan ffs

Delatron · 08/06/2020 15:51

They seem to manage to formulate a plan for pubs and sport events. But let’s just forget about the children.

ChippityDoDa · 08/06/2020 15:55

@pinkpip100 but that is already happening to the majority of children. At our large primary the headteacher has already told us to expect less support for year 2 to 5 (all still at home) once the other years return as they need all of the teachers back for the bubbles of foundation, year 1 and year 6 plus key worker kids. The support has been minimal as it is, I dread to think how it could be much worse.

Lostmyshityear9 · 08/06/2020 15:55

How do you force children to get the work done? You can’t. You can bribe or threaten no screen time but it is all so exhausting and they achieve so little

Rule in my house is if the school feel the need to contact me for any reason other than praise, the internet password is changed and you don't get access to it until I hear from the teacher that the work is completed. End of. Let them manage their own lives - they need to learn that if they put in no effort, everything will stop. In the real world, you don't work, the internet goes off.

helpfulperson · 08/06/2020 16:04

How many old people dying do you think is an acceptable number? Already in the uk the number is significantly higher than any other European country.

pinkpip100 · 08/06/2020 16:05

[quote ChippityDoDa]@pinkpip100 but that is already happening to the majority of children. At our large primary the headteacher has already told us to expect less support for year 2 to 5 (all still at home) once the other years return as they need all of the teachers back for the bubbles of foundation, year 1 and year 6 plus key worker kids. The support has been minimal as it is, I dread to think how it could be much worse.[/quote]
I agree @ChippityDoDa. We have been lucky with the level of support at our primary school (secondary, not so much), but since the year 6 class went back last week my year 6 dd has definitely experienced a drop off in her home learning and is feeling more isolated. As more year groups go back, I am anticipating the same for my other dc (in years 10, 8 and 2). It really worries me that there currently isn't a solution to this.

P1ece0fTheWorld · 08/06/2020 16:21

😂Loving the way switching them internet off is the answer to all our problems.

Firstly we all need the internet in our damiky, secondly if we switch just particular dc’s devices off they need the internet to do their work and finally they have unlimited data on phones they have paid for themselves and a shed load of stuff stored in their devices to keep them going.They couldn’t care less when I switch the internet off.

We hear nothing from school so don’t even know if we should be switching it of. This whole situation is a fiasco.

puffinkoala · 08/06/2020 16:26

Loving the way switching them internet off is the answer to all our problems

Yes, it seems to be the key way MNers discipline their kids. Take away the internet! Take away their phones! It's the magic way to make them do their homework!

Yeah right. Meanwhile, in the real world, some of us need our internet to work. And I used to be able to distract myself just fine with a book, anything is more interesting than homework.

puffinkoala · 08/06/2020 16:29

only a 1/3 of all children are doing some school work

"some" work. And I bet of those who are, there are many who are not doing it all, or not to the same standard as they would if they were having their regular face to face teaching.

Of course there will be those who are thriving - fine - change permanently to homeschooling or Inter High or whatever. But most are not.

RunRunRunAway · 08/06/2020 16:40

I've not read this full thread but I absolutely agree op.

brakethree · 08/06/2020 16:49

It just seems we are stuck in a loop here. Everyone saying that the government need to give guidance however all we hear is the teachers unions saying 'no'. It would seem that there is some guidance but it is being implemented in wildly different ways e.g. some schools using on-line lessons, some schools not because they were told not to or they have pupils with no access so it isn't fair. Some schools delivering meals (were they told to do this or have they just decided to do it?) but some schools not. Even within individual schools there is a difference in what different teachers are providing and I assume this is all ok'd with the head/slt?

I must admit it would seem that even if the government did outline clear guidance, it would still be wrong and individual schools/heads/teachers would do what they want. Whilst some are going the extra mile, it's very clear that many are not. Where can we find exactly what schools and teachers want in order to be able to open to all years?

barbites · 08/06/2020 16:57

100% agree, cannot believe this is actual reality.

thetoddleratemyhomework · 08/06/2020 17:19

I totally agree - the french science minister said today that he thought it was a mistake in retrospect to close schools....

P1ece0fTheWorld · 08/06/2020 17:43

Well that was worrying during briefing. Utter vagueness and just hoping secondaries will open from September. Hospitality clearly their bigger priority.

I could cry. They just don’t give a shit.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/06/2020 17:55

I'm disgusted at entertainment & foreign holidays being prioritised over children's rights to go to school.
Even worse if next year won't be ft either

Every relaxation risks raising R0, so let's use any margin for the #1 priority of education first

  • as e.g. Germany (where I live) did - then wait to see if pubs, airports etc can be opened.

Kids are much less likely than adults to spread the virus anyway and they have sacrificed enough.

Missing a few weeks school to save lives of the elderly & vulnerable was a necessary sacrifice,
but not so adults can go to restaurants, pubs and on foreign holidays

That's taking the piss.

brakethree · 08/06/2020 17:59

Maybe, after trying to work with the unions, they cannot make a decision on education because they aren't getting anywhere. It's clear that they know, and we all know, that schools need to go back but if they say this there will be an outcry from the unions and teachers with possibly strikes?

formerbabe · 08/06/2020 18:00

Absolutely @BigChocFrenzy

No one can now convince me that the UK gives a shit about children.

I mean, all the very important men can now play golf, visit car showrooms and go to the pub.

Meanwhile children can't even go on the bloody swings in the park let alone get a fucking education.

P1ece0fTheWorld · 08/06/2020 18:01

It’s not the unions break. Schools follow instructions from gov, not unions. Gov instructions are making it impossible to open.

Sev72 · 08/06/2020 18:03

That statement about Sept didn’t sound too convincing for high school kids.

Barbie222 · 08/06/2020 18:04

Brakethree, why are you insinuating that teacher unions are blocking further opening?

It is not the case? Schools are open as far as they can be under the guidelines. Teachers are working. Any who are not are either paid sick pay or not at all.

Meanwhile another briefing passed with only the barest scrap said about schools. If half as much energy went into questioning the government on their plans as went on scolding teachers, we'd have had something in writing now about what we're allowed to do.

P1ece0fTheWorld · 08/06/2020 18:05

When asked about schools he focused on hospitality. It’s just appalling.

loulouljh · 08/06/2020 18:06

You can email the Secretary of State for Education directly. I have just done so.

mailto:[email protected]

Delatron · 08/06/2020 18:08

It’s just appalling. Yes to the big men watching their horse racing , going to the pub. Maybe even getting a trip to Spain.

Yet no certainty when the kids go back. Many are suffering huge emotional impact from all of this.

P1ece0fTheWorld · 08/06/2020 18:08

Matt Hancock was privately educated, bet his kids are too. Bet they’re not getting zero education.Angry

brakethree · 08/06/2020 18:10

But we don't know what the unions have said to the government? Over and over it is said that schools follow instructions from the government - really? Why then are they all seemingly doing different things and providing different access? Some councils have stopped schools opening, is that following instructions?

I agree something needs to be cleary laid out, however I think it's obvious that they aren't committing to that because they know there will be an outcry from the unions.

It's all very well saying schools are open but they are not open and fully functioning. 'Open' does not mean providing an education (from what I can understand is going on).

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