Schools fubared till November?

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Disruption to schools could continue to November, MPs told www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-52895640

Is this a dystopian joke?

Are we actually trying to fuck up our kids?

Schools need to be instructed to open fully five days a week with enhanced on day cleaning, increased buses to allow distancing, staggered start and finish, covered but open refuge areas allowing distancing whilst outside in all weathers for breaks and no assemblies. Relatively low investment needed, huge gain economically but more importantly for our kids education and mental health. Some of these kids will never get back to school if they are out for so long. Some will fail to achieve their potential. And all for an illness with a tiny mortality rate overall?

I will not send my child with sanitary products in a clear bag. WTF?
So we will be back to periods restricting access to education......
They need to be able to have a nice anonymous pencil case in there.

Just complain about that countess. It is completely ridiculous and none of the clear bag malarkey is covered by the guidelines.

Although you won't get sympathy from Emma Barnett if anyone has read Period !

Honestly, that clear plastic bag idea. Do you really think the female staff will be on board with that? Definitely complain if it actually happened

Ridiculous, complain. Sanitary products should be in school imho as they have in NZ.

@NeurotrashWarrior Really agree with we should fund in schools.

How can they tell kids not to walk with a friend? Schools are quick enough to tell parents that what happens away from school premises and outside school time is not their responsibility and now they think they police how children get to school? Nope. Fuck that shit.

@NeurotrashWarrior absolutely agree, there should be no need to worry about forgetting to bring your stuff like you don't need to worry about bringing loo roll. I'd campaign for that!

Older children can choose how hard they work during their time out of school and need to take some responsibility for their own education in these difficult times. Those that do will find themselves at a huge advantage when it comes to higher education as they will be well-prepared for independent learning. Those that don't may be disadvantaged, but there is no excuse as there is a huge array of resources widely available online and offline. I am a secondary teacher and I enjoy teaching motivated children - I don't enjoy forcing children to work, crowd control or being abused. If your child is not motivated then please don't blame the teachers who are try their best to educate your difficult child.

If teenagers really are capable of just educating themselves with books and websites and getting great results [hint: they aren't], it's not clear why we spend money on training teachers or paying their salaries.

It's quite strange watching people trying arguing that their own job is pointless!

Again Sudoku that is because that is the guidelines. Jenny harries explained that multiple times in a briefing. They know they will but are trying to limit it which is why only small numbers of year 10s are back at one time.

You know that's a national thing , right? Not just schools? No one is supposed to walk anywhere in large groups.

The very reason youngest year groups were chosen for mass retunr was because of the tighter control over travel to and from school

I’m not talking about walking in large groups. I’m talking about walking with a friend which they are allowed to do currently.

Honestly this is all such total bollocks. Why the hell do we give any credence to anything that Jenny Harries says when she previously said that large gatherings didn’t pose any risk of transmission. And now kids can’t go to school walking with one friend? OK then.

This has all gone too far. Treating kids like lepers and offering a half arsed attempt at schooling is not a proportionate response to the threat of the virus after what will be 5 months of suppression measures.

Well said Sudoku

It's quite strange watching people trying arguing that their own job is pointless!

Exactly, teachers would be the first to whine if the blended learning was kept up and half of them were made redundant. Turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind.

my child is 13 but sen, High functioning asd. He needs a lot of support even though he is capable academically, independent study probably suits some teens and at our school the work set is definitely geared towards them. Our son has lost all of his support network, he relied on routine and structure. Now he is barely sleeping, his anxxiety is off the scale and he says he is hearing strange voices in his bedroom. How can that be better for him than the tiny risk of being exposed to COVID

Exactly, teachers would be the first to whine if the blended learning was kept up and half of them were made redundant.

Who do you think is providing the online part of the blended learning? Internet teaching fairies?

Who do you think is providing the online part of the blended learning? Internet teaching fairies?

So far in my children’s case it’s Twinkl and White Rose maths, but appreciate that’s not the same for everyone.
The fact is though that long term online teaching will require fewer teachers delivering it. An LEA wide online learning programme could be developed for each year group. I’m not saying this should happen by any stretch, but with our current governments record for cost cutting in education? If i was a teacher I’d be concerned.

Who do you think is providing the online part of the blended learning? Internet teaching fairies?

I doubt you’ll need as many of them to provide that service compare to standing actually teaching in a classroom

Plenty of other people will lose their jobs as a result of this pandemic, if teachers think they will be immune I suspect they might get a shock.

I think you are making a mistake to think that the virus spreading freely won't harm the lives of the majority. That's what it comes down to.

@eeeyoresmiles

It won’t harm the lives of the majority.

Treating kids like lepers and offering a half arsed attempt at schooling is not a proportionate response to the threat of the virus after what will be 5 months of suppression measures
Agree. But I am probably biased because my own MH is going rapidly downhill in yje current situation.

What will harm the lives of the majority is this.... the situation we’re in now

Barbie, you imply I’m lying.

Why is that?

And the word ‘contaminated’ and ‘contamination’ was mentioned three times in the return to school guidance.

Which assumes the children and belongings may be contaminated. Words like this are very damaging to children.

I doubt you’ll need as many of them to provide that service compare to standing actually teaching in a classroom.

Perhaps you’re right, although it means children wouldn’t get the tailored online teaching and feedback that my school, for example, is providing.

@HipTightOnions

I doubt you’ll need as many of them to provide that service compare to standing actually teaching in a classroom.

Perhaps you’re right, although it means children wouldn’t get the tailored online teaching and feedback that my school, for example, is providing.

I wouldn’t have thought our current government will care much about tailored online teaching and feedback, with their record of cost cutting.

Plenty of other people will lose their jobs as a result of this pandemic, if teachers think they will be immune I suspect they might get a shock.

There is currently a huge recruitment crisis in teaching, with experienced staff quitting in their droves and 18% of new ones coming in giving up within two years because of the immense workload and unreasonable Ofsted attainment expectations. If teachers are made redundant, who will teach in their places? Do the internet teaching fairies have classroom-based friends? I imagine parents moaning on here about teachers being crap will be the first ones to complain when their children are shoved into even bigger classes to accommodate the staffing gaps. Be careful what you wish for.