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People driving far away to beaches/beauty spots

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Fluffyglitterystuff · 21/05/2020 13:52

Just wondering what people opinions are on this.

I'm not a doom monger/dementor, I was overjoyed when Boris said officially we can take unlimited exercise and drive for exercise as well as stop for picnics and I hate the way people have complained about joggers or people going for walks.

It's made a world of difference for us as a family just know know that I can take youngest for a stroll and still go for a run later on, or drive off to the woods or another park for a change of scenery, or sit on the grass while the kids run around with a ball or a frisbee.

But, I don't think I'd feel comfortable driving off to a beach miles away or to another touristy town or anything like that. When I see people on the news piling onto packed beaches that they've travelled far to I do feel a bit disapproving.

The reason for this is we've still got to be very careful at this time and I just feel that we should leave the beaches and beauty spots for the locals to enjoy for now. There could be issues with toilets or people breaking down on the motorway it just doesn't seem in the spirit of things.

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ITonyah · 21/05/2020 23:11

Or they are so preoccupied with Brexit they aren't thinking straight.

hellocherry5 · 22/05/2020 09:03

I live 10 minutes walk from the beach and we’ve had little chance to enjoy it. During lock down police were patrolling making sure no one was sat down

Do you need to sit down to enjoy it? I thought if you lived locally you'd be walking on it, not sitting on it getting sand in your knickers.

Belive it or not, locals like to spend time at the beach by sitting on it, as well as walking on it. The floor of my house is constantly sandy all summer, so a little sand my knickers really doesn’t bother me. Yes we’ve been walking on it during lockdown, but my daughter likes to play and build sandcastles and we all like a paddle and a swim. But the selfish arseholes driving hours to get here have put a stop to that, at the weekends anyway.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 22/05/2020 09:19

I think it’s fairly clear who is being more selfish in that scenario.

Bleepbloopblarp · 22/05/2020 09:34

Wow hellocherry - can you not see the irony in your post?

Figmentofmyimagination · 22/05/2020 09:41

Sandy beaches are pretty unhealthy places at the best of times - especially higher up, where the sand stays dry most of the time. People dig their hands into the warm sand without a second thought and then enjoy their sandwich or whatever - bluch.

I remember 20+ years ago when my DD caught rotavirus on a Chilean beach aged 9 months. It was very scary.

JanewaysBun · 22/05/2020 10:43

You do not have more of a right to the beach than anyone else. Unless you personally own it. Your behaviour sounds more selfish than someone coming once a month.

I'm still relatively locked down, we are waiting to see what happens to all the people who have been out and about to decide whether we went to join in!

chunkyrun · 22/05/2020 10:51

I'd love to but the thought of not being able to access a toilet puts me right off.

bellinisurge · 22/05/2020 10:55

Johnson is so desperate to blame people other than himself and his third rate Cabinet for this, he's given bollocks incoherent suggestions . Some will take the piss. Some will do their best. And the inevitable second wave will be someone else's fault not his.That's his career.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 22/05/2020 11:02

While I personally believe a second wave at some point is fairly likely (and probably won’t be till the winter) I am as sure as I can be of anything covid-related that it won’t be caused by people driving to the beach.

GabriellaMontez · 22/05/2020 11:06

I dont believe people own their local beach or tourist attraction. I dont like the sort of insular attitudes we keep hearing.

I believe very little transmission occurs outdoors.

However toilets are a problem. Transmission would appear to take place in toilets. That's the reason I wont be travelling too far at the moment.

MadameMarie · 22/05/2020 12:41

I wouldn't want to use any public toilet at the home. That's going to be the big issue with bars and pubs.

MadameMarie · 22/05/2020 12:41

*moment

bellinisurge · 22/05/2020 14:26

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/bucket-full-human-poo-discovered-18292397

Somebody took their shit and left it in beautiful Whitby.
Fuck off you tossers. Take your shit home with you.

GinnyStrupac · 22/05/2020 15:34

For me, and I know for most of us, it isn't about feeling that local people own the beaches or countryside, or that (considerate) visitors aren't welcome at normal times, it really isn't. I, for one, would like to reassure everyone of that. Some of my friends and neighbours rely on visitors for some or much of their income. And after all, I am a (hopefully, considerate) visitor when I go anywhere with my family, be it to the coast, another National Park or, more rarely for us, a city or town.

The difference at the moment, and only at the moment, because we are in the middle of a global pandemic is that it is not considerate or safe to visit. Boris might well have thought that he will win votes, popularity or avoid blame for a second wave or peak, by allowing people to travel unlimited distances in England, but it does not make it a wise decision or a welcome one for many. It's far from welcomed by local councils, police, RNLI, coastguard and mountain rescue volunteers, National Park authorities, hospitals and minor injuries units, ambulance, fire and rescue, local residents and most businesses including small village shops. Ignoring all these concerns, Boris has said people can travel and so, ignoring all these concerns, some people will do so. We are not ignoring all these concerns, we are ignoring Boris and staying local.

What we are seeing locally in our National Park:

  • Heavy and standing traffic, almost constantly, from morning till evening.
  • Full car parks and/or cars parked on narrow lanes, grass and paths, making access difficult or impossible for emergency vehicles, farmers, deliveries and local residents, including the disabled.
  • A rapid increase in air pollution since the Wednesday before last from traffic, circling to park and engines left idling.
  • Littering, including human and dog excrement both in bags and not, picnic wrappings, burst footballs, broken plastic children's and dog toys, alcohol bottles and cans, nappies, cigarette ends and disposable barbecues.
  • Increase in fire risk from cigarettes and barbecues.
  • Social distancing being ignored or made impossible by sheer numbers of visitors or the geography of the locations - eg narrow tracks and paths.
  • Visitors using small local village shops for picnic supplies, reducing limited stock levels for local residents without cars, especially the elderly and vulnerable, who rely on them.
  • Visitor numbers and behaviour at levels likely to increase viral spread amongst themselves and to/from local residents and service providers including shop staff, police and rescue volunteers.
  • Local residents, especially the vulnerable and elderly and those living with or caring for them, who feel that they cannot leave their own homes seven days a week from morning till evening to go for a walk or to the village shop because of the level and behaviour of visitors.

This is what is unwelcome, not considerate visitors in normal times. Should we welcome this at the moment? Would you welcome this where you live or work?

This is destroying a beauty spot, not enjoying it. Don't be a covidiot adding to this. Stay local, just for now. Come back later, and you'll be welcome.

rhubarbfizzy · 22/05/2020 17:20

but @ginny your local area belongs to you and your neighbours no more than to anyone else who resides in england. Over 90% of UK is agricultural or countryside. There is therefore plenty of country for everyone. you have no legal right to ban or dissuade people from visiting the country, near to you or afar. you may be very, very angry about this but it is something to consider and then maybe keep in mind the 100 of 1000s of people, many with children, who have now spent weeks in small flats with no garden. Fresh air and countryside is what they need right now, even if it makes you cross. You own your property from the earth to the sky above it but no more than that. The you-are-not-welcome-here mentality has been one of the many sad sad reactions seen in england during covid. it bodes badly for the future of the country.

OrangeSamphire · 22/05/2020 17:27

I totally get why our village / beach car parks were rammed yesterday. People desperate for some outside time, and the sea is something lots of people crave.

It's annoying, but I totally understand people's need to get out and about.

What I don't understand is why some think it's ok to leave litter, piss, shit and dirty nappies in their wake. The beach loos are closed here because they can't be cleaned in a Covid-safe way at the moment. That doesn't mean bins can't be used for litter, or that you can't get back in your car and go home / to a service station to use a loo.

GinnyStrupac · 25/05/2020 14:29

You have obviously not read, half read or misunderstood my pp @rhubarb because you are completely misrepresenting where I am coming from and the tone of my pp. It would make a huge difference if visitors spread themselves out across all that countryside you mention, and behaved considerately while here, but so many are not doing that. They are crowding into 'honey pot' areas, and causing the problems mentioned in my pp, on the news and by local councils and services. And, because of the location of our National Park and the means needed to travel here, I very much doubt that most visitors are those living in flats with children with no outdoor space you mention, who would of course have my understanding and sympathy as long as they were among the seemingly few visitors behaving considerately. As @Orange says, the reason for travelling out to the coast or countryside is understandable, but the behaviour while here of many who are doing is selfish, foolish, unnecessary and in some cases disgusting. Local farmers are reporting gates left open with livestock in fields, dogs off leads worrying sheep with lambs and cows with calves, adults taking children up to livestock to 'pet' them or feed them, including with a bull in the field, cars blocking gates and litter being left on farmland which can choke livestock and wildlife. Some visitors are at least doing their upmost to behave considerately but the majority are not.

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