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Government backs down on primary school opening 1 June

249 replies

peridito · 20/05/2020 18:06

Just heard headline on Radio 4 .

Daily Mail seem to be only News agency reporting .

OP posts:
PicsInRed · 20/05/2020 19:13

VickyEadieofThigh

Because they are a giant residential institution so viral spread would be rapid and difficult to contain - much more so than in a traditional school. Same issues as in care homes.

Deelish75 · 20/05/2020 19:13

This was being reported earlier today regarding track and trace but I've not been able to find anything about schools definitely not opening in June.

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/track-trace-app-schools-reopening-a4445966.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2SzjhuaIdpVvF_fGKVuatyLDrVKJ0_vHdz4Ho1fAjfYk8wwyTpMvvcKt4#Echobox=1589972236

LilyMarshall · 20/05/2020 19:13

Will be a big backlash against teachers and unions for this

This is hilarious. Like people have such little ability to critically analyse what is being said by bojo, that they actually (A) thought the 1st of june was actually ever going to happen and (b) think it is teachers and not the government that decides these things.

Christ alive.

LilacTree1 · 20/05/2020 19:13

Misleading title OP.

PicsInRed · 20/05/2020 19:14

*traditional school.

Or a less traditional school. 🎩 🤷‍♀️ Which ever side you debate. 😂

failedasaparent · 20/05/2020 19:15

I can't see anything online (inc. the BBC) that states that schools are not going back after half term. Have you got a decent link OP? (not the Mail, what they say makes Jackanory look like an Attenborough documentary as far as I am concerned)

FergusSingsTheBlues · 20/05/2020 19:15

@VickyEadieofThigh
It’s a boarding school
So
You might want to think along the lines of prisons .. or care homes...Cruise ships... hospitals.... you know, residential places where viruses spread Confused

GabsAlot · 20/05/2020 19:15

my nieces school is year 6 only on the 1st other years to be announced

Boxachocs · 20/05/2020 19:15

@Biscuitsneeded Sorry it wasn’t clearer - the former.

LilyMarshall · 20/05/2020 19:16

assuming you accept that there will be some in the case of a pandemic?

Why? Why, looking at other countries across the world, are you happy to continue for people to die in their tens of thousands? Why are you not angry with the government's continued pisspoor approach to this.

PickUpAPickUpAPenguin · 20/05/2020 19:16

Just checked Eton term dates and last day of school is Saturday 27th June. Together with the international students having quarantine, there's no time to do anything really

Boxachocs · 20/05/2020 19:17

Clearly lots of people think that’s what we’ve all been doing.

EngTech · 20/05/2020 19:19

No doubt people will complain about children not going back to school now, no win situation really 😳

HeffalumpsCantDance · 20/05/2020 19:20

’Will be a big backlash against teachers and unions for this’

I’ve asked this before on a different thread, BeltaneBride what form do you see this taking?
Redundancies? Troublemakers being managed out? Surprise inspections? Withdrawal of funding? Short term contracts? Membership of a union seen as a negative by SLT and bosses?Constant negative criticism from parents, governors, politicians and the rest?

How will staff notice the backlash and recognise it as different to the last decade?

FrippEnos · 20/05/2020 19:22

MarginalGain

Teachers or school employees as a class

You do know that the "as a class" doesn't work with teachers, it just shows desperation to lump us in a single group.

Boxachocs · 20/05/2020 19:23

@HeffalumpsCantDance Too true

SmileEachDay · 20/05/2020 19:24

BeltaneBride

You are desperate for there to be a backlash against state sector teachers. You’ve made that clear over numerous threads.

Weallhavevalidopinions · 20/05/2020 19:28

IMO I think year 6 for primary then year 5 and for secondary year 10 and then 9 .....

Number of cases down in many parts of the country and so time for things to start to move back again. I realise some will want to stay home for a year or so or at least 6 months....

Other countries have started to return to school etc. We need to take a sensible approach and not be too over the top and realise that the economy needs to get moving otherwise more and more businesses will fail and more will lose jobs then less taxes so less money for the NHS/Social care/Education

Quartz2208 · 20/05/2020 19:28

So they have changed it to what they should have said in the first place that schools should start to think about opening from the 1st June and allowed flexibility.

Eton etc are misleading - its a Secondary. Other independent schools are

That is interesting about Cambridge reported as it not being open but lectures make sense as easy to have them online and the rest in smaller groups

Stuckforthefourthtime · 20/05/2020 19:29

Cambridge Uni won't even be back "in person" until next academic year. So some will want us to wait at least a full year.

Yes they will, they just won't be filling massive lecture halls. In person tutorials in small groups - always the main method for teaching at Cambridge - will continue.

65 school workers have already died

Yes, there are a lot of school workers, some unfortunately will. Even the original SchoolsWeek article that raised this pointed out it's the same mortality rate as corporate managers - not a notably high risk group. Hairdressers for example were far more at risk, or factory workers far higher again.www.google.com/amp/s/schoolsweek.co.uk/ons-figures-reveal-65-covid-related-deaths-in-education/amp/

LilyMarshall · 20/05/2020 19:30

So they have changed it to what they should have said in the first place that schools should start to think about opening from the 1st June and allowed flexibility.

Nothing has changed. Bojo in the first speech about schools reopening said from this date if other criteria had been met.

HeffalumpsCantDance · 20/05/2020 19:31

Yes, but how? Being as so many ways of retaliation get people jailed. and others involve tricky things like human rights, workers rights. Which is why unions were set up in the first place.
Got visions of pagans and Christians alike, crouched in front of their altars, praying for teachers to be struck with cramps, spots and bunions.

BelleSausage · 20/05/2020 19:31

@BeltaneBride

Why would there be a backlash against teachers. None of this is under our control or our choice.

The only people in charge are the government. Surely there should be a huge backlash against them for promising 1st June to make themselves look good and then not getting the contact tracing going in time to make it happen.

All the stress and anxiety they caused by over promising and under delivering. Muppets.

HeffalumpsCantDance · 20/05/2020 19:32

Sorry, that was for SmileEachDay

MarshaBradyo · 20/05/2020 19:33

Read half thread. Tg it’s not true. Have a year 5 and year 10 keen to go back, they need to get the ball rolling.